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* bug#10023: 24.0.91; `mark-whole-buffer' doesn't always "mark the whole buffer"
@ 2011-11-12 11:51 Dani Moncayo
  2011-11-12 19:30 ` Glenn Morris
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dani Moncayo @ 2011-11-12 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 10023

Hi,

The `mark-whole-buffer' command, when invoked from a narrowed buffer,
doesn't mark the whole buffer (like its name, docstring and the manual
say) but only the narrowed portion.

Therefore, I think that:
* The docstring and the manual should explain this use-case.
* The command name could be renamed to just `mark-buffer', since the
"whole" part is specially unfortunate.


In GNU Emacs 24.0.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)
 of 2011-11-11 on DANI-PC
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5)'

-- 
Dani Moncayo





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* bug#10023: 24.0.91; `mark-whole-buffer' doesn't always "mark the whole buffer"
  2011-11-12 11:51 bug#10023: 24.0.91; `mark-whole-buffer' doesn't always "mark the whole buffer" Dani Moncayo
@ 2011-11-12 19:30 ` Glenn Morris
  2011-11-12 20:53   ` Dani Moncayo
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2011-11-12 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: 10023

Dani Moncayo wrote:

> The `mark-whole-buffer' command, when invoked from a narrowed buffer,
> doesn't mark the whole buffer (like its name, docstring and the manual
> say) but only the narrowed portion.
>
> Therefore, I think that:
> * The docstring and the manual should explain this use-case.
> * The command name could be renamed to just `mark-buffer', since the
> "whole" part is specially unfortunate.

From the Emacs manual on narrowing:

    When you have narrowed down to a part of the buffer, that part
    appears to be all there is.  You can't see the rest, you can't move
    into it (motion commands won't go outside the accessible part), you
    can't change it in any way.

This is a common concept that I don't think needs to be explained in
the doc of every command that it might effect. `mark-whole-buffer'
definitely does not need to be renamed.

Narrow-to-region is a disabled command; you get a notice about this kind
of thing when you invoke it.





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* bug#10023: 24.0.91; `mark-whole-buffer' doesn't always "mark the whole buffer"
  2011-11-12 19:30 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2011-11-12 20:53   ` Dani Moncayo
  2011-11-15  0:39     ` Glenn Morris
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dani Moncayo @ 2011-11-12 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 10023

> From the Emacs manual on narrowing:
>
>    When you have narrowed down to a part of the buffer, that part
>    appears to be all there is.  You can't see the rest, you can't move
>    into it (motion commands won't go outside the accessible part), you
>    can't change it in any way.
>
> This is a common concept that I don't think needs to be explained in
> the doc of every command that it might effect.

Maybe not.

> `mark-whole-buffer'
> definitely does not need to be renamed.

I still think that the "whole" part is unnecessary and unfortunate.

But well, if you don't think it's worth the trouble, close this bug
report.  I certainly can live with it, and there are many other issues
more important than this one, of course.


-- 
Dani Moncayo





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* bug#10023: 24.0.91; `mark-whole-buffer' doesn't always "mark the whole buffer"
  2011-11-12 20:53   ` Dani Moncayo
@ 2011-11-15  0:39     ` Glenn Morris
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2011-11-15  0:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 10023-done

Version: 24.0.92

I've mentioned narrowing in the doc of mark-whole-buffer, I don't think
there's a need for anything more.





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