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From: martin rudalics via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: daniel.c.mccarthy@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	68235@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#68235: 29.1.90; Switching tabs stops following process output in selected window
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 12:42:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce553085-d80a-4ba1-b441-82adff7d6314@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86a5p5qv61.fsf@mail.linkov.net>

 > The buffer name often has a hint about the file/directory name.

But not the name of a dead buffer.

 > By default the buffer name is stored as a tab name.  And it helps
 > to know the purpose of why that tab was created.  When the buffer
 > was killed in another tab, it helps to decide whether the tab
 > that displayed the killed buffer should be closed as well.

How do you synchronize tabs with 'kill-buffer'?  If, in a tab, you
retain a link to a killed buffer, that buffer can't be collected as long
as the tab exists.  If you just keep the buffer name and the user
creates a new buffer with the same name but for a different file, things
may get confusing.

 > What would be more useful to keep for the killed buffer
 > is the value of its revert-buffer-function.  Often calling
 > this function can reconstruct the buffer contents.

But that function should be available even for a killed buffer as long
as its object is referenced by a tab.

 > Instead of *scratch*, is it possible to display some special buffer
 > that will display the name of the killed buffer, and a button
 > that runs its revert-buffer-function?

We can set up a buffer local variable whose value is a function that
'set-window-configuration' would call whenever it finds a window with
that buffer dead. 'set-window-configuration' would then check whether
that function correctly returned a live buffer to show in that window.
If the function succeeded, 'set-window-configuration' could try to
restore the earlier values of window point and start in the window.  If
the function failed, 'set-window-configuration' would either delete the
window or display *scratch* in it.

 >> Still 'post-set-window-configuration-functions' (and also the
 >> desktop routines) would have to know enough about how to restore the
 >> earlier state.  This is something only a buffer's major mode itself may
 >> know.
 >
 > Or revert-buffer-function.

Which is usually set up by the major mode.

 > The stored point is not sufficient when saved as a number to the desktop file.

In what sense?  You have a state you store in a desktop file and restore
from that file.  The stored state is immutable.  If a file whose buffer
is stored in that state gets modified in between, any positions stored
in the state must be considered invalid.

martin






  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-17 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-03 20:48 bug#68235: 29.1.90; Switching tabs stops following process output in selected window Dan McCarthy
2024-01-04  6:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-04 10:23   ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-04 10:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-04 17:07     ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-04 17:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-05  9:24         ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-06 17:36           ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-07 14:54             ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-07 16:45               ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-08  8:55                 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-09 17:23                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-07 16:49               ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-09 17:25                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-10  8:37                   ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-10 17:08                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-11  9:14                       ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-12  7:37                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-13 10:38                           ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-13 15:02                             ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-13 18:20                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-14  8:13                                 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-14 18:53                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-15 10:24                                     ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-15 17:53                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-16 10:19                                         ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-16 16:30                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-17 11:42                                             ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-01-17 16:36                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-18 10:47                                                 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-18 16:50                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-20  9:44                                                     ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-22  7:43                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-23  9:30                                                         ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-24  7:54                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-25  9:39                                                             ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-25 17:46                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-26  9:56                                                                 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-27 17:58                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-28 10:06                                                                     ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-05  7:17                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-06 10:34                                                         ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-06 18:03                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-15  7:34                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-16  9:40                                                             ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-18  7:35                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-19  9:42                                                                 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-20 17:44                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-04  9:40                                                                   ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-05 17:27                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-05 17:45                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-06 18:03                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-09  8:35                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-17 17:57                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-05 17:37                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-06 10:19                                                                       ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-06 17:57                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-08  9:21                                                                           ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-10 17:23                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-11  9:13                                                                               ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-09  6:53                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-09  7:36                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-09  9:22                                                                                   ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-09 16:40                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-10  8:47                                                                                       ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-10 17:35                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-11  9:16                                                                                           ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-12  6:30                                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-12  8:18                                                                                               ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-12 16:20                                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-15  9:21                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-21  6:59                                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-21  8:56                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-22  6:46                                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-21  9:27                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  6:40                                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-22  7:00                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22 16:36                                                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-22 19:22                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-15  9:38                                                                               ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-17 17:47                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-18 10:13                                                                                   ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-15 10:11                                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2024-03-15 10:56                                                                               ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-04 17:27                       ` Juri Linkov

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