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* bug#64537: mix lists and vectors when using backquote
@ 2023-07-09  5:40 Shynur Xie
  2023-09-22  9:08 ` Stefan Kangas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Shynur Xie @ 2023-07-09  5:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 64537

The docstring of ‘backquote’ says “vectors work just like lists”.
Should we also clarify that mixing lists and vectors these 2 way:

    `(... ,@[...])  ; by contrast: `(,@[] 1)  => (1)
    `[,@'()]        ; by contrast: `[1 ,@'()] => [1]

will lead to unexpected behavior?  Or suggest not doing so?  Or let
‘backquote’ detect this and signal an error?

BTW, if [[https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=64415]] is
actually not a bug, please consider document that behavior.  Thanks.




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* bug#64537: mix lists and vectors when using backquote
  2023-07-09  5:40 bug#64537: mix lists and vectors when using backquote Shynur Xie
@ 2023-09-22  9:08 ` Stefan Kangas
  2023-09-22 15:03   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2023-09-22  9:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shynur Xie; +Cc: 64537, Stefan Monnier

Shynur Xie <one.last.kiss@outlook.com> writes:

> The docstring of ‘backquote’ says “vectors work just like lists”.
> Should we also clarify that mixing lists and vectors these 2 way:
>
>     `(... ,@[...])  ; by contrast: `(,@[] 1)  => (1)
>     `[,@'()]        ; by contrast: `[1 ,@'()] => [1]
>
> will lead to unexpected behavior?  Or suggest not doing so?  Or let
> ‘backquote’ detect this and signal an error?

Copying in Stefan Monnier.





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* bug#64537: mix lists and vectors when using backquote
  2023-09-22  9:08 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2023-09-22 15:03   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2023-09-24  9:47     ` Stefan Kangas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-09-22 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: 64537, Shynur Xie

>> The docstring of ‘backquote’ says “vectors work just like lists”.
>> Should we also clarify that mixing lists and vectors these 2 way:
>>
>>     `(... ,@[...])  ; by contrast: `(,@[] 1)  => (1)
>>     `[,@'()]        ; by contrast: `[1 ,@'()] => [1]
>>
>> will lead to unexpected behavior?  Or suggest not doing so?  Or let
>> ‘backquote’ detect this and signal an error?
>
> Copying in Stefan Monnier.

Is there a good reason why we have those unexpected behaviors?


        Stefan






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* bug#64537: mix lists and vectors when using backquote
  2023-09-22 15:03   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-09-24  9:47     ` Stefan Kangas
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2023-09-24  9:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 64537, Shynur Xie

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>> The docstring of ‘backquote’ says “vectors work just like lists”.
>>> Should we also clarify that mixing lists and vectors these 2 way:
>>>
>>>     `(... ,@[...])  ; by contrast: `(,@[] 1)  => (1)
>>>     `[,@'()]        ; by contrast: `[1 ,@'()] => [1]
>>>
>>> will lead to unexpected behavior?  Or suggest not doing so?  Or let
>>> ‘backquote’ detect this and signal an error?
>>
>> Copying in Stefan Monnier.
>
> Is there a good reason why we have those unexpected behaviors?

I see two unexpected behaviors:

  1.   `(... ,@[...])  =>  (\... . [\...])
  2.   `[,@'()]        =>  [(\,@ 'nil)]

I'd say these are the expected values:

  1.   `(... ,@[...])  =>  (\... \...)
  2.   `[,@'()]        =>  []

I don't see any good reason for them, so perhaps these are just plain
bugs to be fixed?





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