* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
@ 2013-01-26 6:43 Drew Adams
2013-02-23 1:11 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2013-01-26 6:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 13554
Backtrace:
0x011569F0
0x01156A62
0x01001459
0x01021941
0x0114C55F
0x7E418730
0x7E418812
0x7E4189C9
0x7E418A0C
0x0114AB7C
0x0114AE1B
0x7C80B725
Backtrace:
0x011581B0
0x01158222
0x01001459
0x01021E25
0x0114DD1F
0x7E418730
0x7E418812
0x7E4189C9
0x7E418A0C
0x0114C33C
0x0114C5DB
0x7C80B725
In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
of 2013-01-22 on ODIEONE
Bzr revision: 111584 dmantipov@yandex.ru-20130122114800-5m9xn29kwf5n9nwx
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
Configured using:
`configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags
-IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib'
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* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
2013-01-26 6:43 bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Drew Adams
@ 2013-02-23 1:11 ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-23 2:24 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-02-23 1:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 13554
No-one has translated this backtrace.
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* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
2013-02-23 1:11 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2013-02-23 2:24 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-02-23 18:59 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-02-23 2:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 13554
The binaries for ODIEONE builds are at
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3pgcb3iiy8s9irl/c171Xhsd99
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* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
2013-02-23 2:24 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2013-02-23 18:59 ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-23 19:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-02-24 14:38 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-02-23 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: 13554
Juanma Barranquero wrote:
> The binaries for ODIEONE builds are at
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3pgcb3iiy8s9irl/c171Xhsd99
That's no use to me I'm afraid.
If there is no-one willing to decode these traces, then presumably there
is on-one willing to work on fixing them.
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* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
2013-02-23 18:59 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2013-02-23 19:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-02-23 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-24 14:38 ` Richard Stallman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-02-23 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 13554
> If there is no-one willing to decode these traces, then presumably there
> is on-one willing to work on fixing them.
Most of these reports do not have a recipe, so they are only slightly
useful, at most.
I agree with Eli that Drew, which experiences a fair amount of weird
crashes and assertion failures (likely related to his unusual
frame-oriented setup) should run Emacs under GDB. That would be really
helpful.
Juanma
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* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
2013-02-23 19:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2013-02-23 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-02-23 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: 13554
> From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 20:21:52 +0100
> Cc: 13554@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > If there is no-one willing to decode these traces, then presumably there
> > is on-one willing to work on fixing them.
>
> Most of these reports do not have a recipe, so they are only slightly
> useful, at most.
>
> I agree with Eli that Drew, which experiences a fair amount of weird
> crashes and assertion failures (likely related to his unusual
> frame-oriented setup) should run Emacs under GDB. That would be really
> helpful.
I normally try to decode every backtrace (unless I forget), and post
the results if they make sense. I'm quite sure these didn't.
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* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
2013-02-23 18:59 ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-23 19:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2013-02-24 14:38 ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-24 16:45 ` Juanma Barranquero
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2013-02-24 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: lekktu, 13554
Dropbox requires running nonfree software (in Javascript) even to access
a file there. It is not a good distribution method.
--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
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* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
2013-02-24 14:38 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2013-02-24 16:45 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-02-25 11:42 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-02-24 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Stallman; +Cc: 13554
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
> Dropbox requires running nonfree software (in Javascript) even to access
> a file there. It is not a good distribution method.
I'm not distributing anything, at least not officially. It's for private use.
Juanma
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* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
2013-02-24 16:45 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2013-02-25 11:42 ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-25 11:51 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2013-02-25 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: 13554
> Dropbox requires running nonfree software (in Javascript) even to access
> a file there. It is not a good distribution method.
I'm not distributing anything, at least not officially. It's for private use.
You're not distributing it to the public, but you're distributing it
to SOMEONE, because that's whaty dropbox is for.
--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
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* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
2013-02-25 11:42 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2013-02-25 11:51 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-02-25 21:50 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-02-25 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Stallman; +Cc: 13554
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
> You're not distributing it to the public, but you're distributing it
> to SOMEONE
That's what my "at least not officially" means.
> because that's whaty dropbox is for.
I'd say Dropbox is mostly to share with yourself across different
devices. That's 99% of my use of it.
J
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* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
2013-02-25 11:51 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2013-02-25 21:50 ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-25 22:35 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2013-02-25 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: 13554
> because that's whaty dropbox is for.
I'd say Dropbox is mostly to share with yourself across different
devices. That's 99% of my use of it.
I stand corrected -- but it is not good to run a nonfree program
regardless of the purpose.
--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
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* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
2013-02-25 21:50 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2013-02-25 22:35 ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-26 12:56 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <mailman.20914.1361883442.855.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-02-25 22:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: 13554
Richard Stallman wrote:
> I stand corrected -- but it is not good to run a nonfree program
> regardless of the purpose.
The purpose in this case is to distribute pre-built binaries that are
only useful on a non-free software platform.
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* bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
2013-02-25 22:35 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2013-02-26 12:56 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <mailman.20914.1361883442.855.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2013-02-26 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 13554
The purpose in this case is to distribute pre-built binaries that are
only useful on a non-free software platform.
That doesn't affect the conclusion. There is an important moral line
between helping the users of nonfree software install a free program,
and suggesting that someone run a nonfree program.
--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
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* Re: bug#13554: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
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@ 2013-02-26 19:48 ` Sebastien Vauban
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2013-02-26 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ
Hello Richard,
Richard Stallman wrote:
> The purpose in this case is to distribute pre-built binaries that are
> only useful on a non-free software platform.
>
> That doesn't affect the conclusion. There is an important moral line
> between helping the users of nonfree software install a free program,
> and suggesting that someone run a nonfree program.
The same principle goes for the Windows binaries (very kindly) built by Dani.
Why not letting him a space on FSF FTP server to upload the weekly builts?
Best regards,
Seb
--
Sebastien Vauban
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