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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rgm@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, jonas@bernoul.li,
	p.stephani2@gmail.com, 53316@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#53316: 28.0.91; Missing Transient manual in Emacs
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 01:45:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1nMlP3-0008Bh-J2@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33A4238A-C948-4A8E-BADB-689142143CED@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 21 Feb 2022 07:47:29 +0200)

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  > Transient is not just a manual, Transient is an Emacs Lisp package,

I know.

    > Removing its manual is only acceptable to me if we also remove
    > the package and all its uses.

Lots of packages don't have manuals.  Indeed, it is undesirable not to
have the Texinfo manual, but not a disaster.

  > > * Fork the manual, making a version for which the Texinfo form is the
  > >   real source that we edit.  That version can be included in Emacs 28.
  > >   This forkage would be a practical problem, but not a disaster.

  > This is what we did, in effect.  The Texinfo sources were heavily edited, and diverged significantly from the results of conversion from Org.

I see.  Well, this is ok, in terms of principles.

  > The converter exists, but has problems that need to be resolved
  > before the results could be acceptable.  We hope this will be done
  > in the future, and will allow us to use the Org sources instead of
  > Texinfo.

  > Fof future releases, we indeed hope to see the problems of
  > conversion from Org resolved,

That would be a very good advance; but because it's difficult and
because I've seen people neglect the issue before, could you ask
the people doing this to show me the spec they want to implement?


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  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-23  6:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-17 13:07 bug#53316: 28.0.91; Missing Transient manual in Emacs Philipp Stephani
2022-01-21 11:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-25 20:30   ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-01-25 20:41     ` Philipp Stephani
2022-01-25 21:15       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-02-15 16:57         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-01-26  9:08     ` Michael Albinus
2022-02-15 16:53   ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-02-15 19:09     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-15 21:39       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-02-16  3:25         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-15 20:17     ` Glenn Morris
2022-02-15 21:46       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-02-16 21:09         ` Glenn Morris
2022-02-17  6:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-19  4:57             ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-19  8:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-21  4:34                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-21  5:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-23  6:45                     ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2022-02-23 12:18                       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-02-25  5:00                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-23 12:45                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-19  9:27               ` Glenn Morris

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