From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 21695@debbugs.gnu.org, hmelman@gmail.com,
gregory@heytings.org
Subject: bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:13:52 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1mQbI0-0001pt-LO@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b32e489e-f1e5-e2e6-7dd6-47bc09ebb1b2@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:27:25 +0200)
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> > The point is not to display unnecessary warnings. The point is only
> > to display warnings for custom variables that should not be set with
> > setq because they have a :set form, or IOW, to display warnings for
> > custom variables that should be set with customize-set-variables.
> I checked most of our uses of :set and agree that they usually behave
> well-mannered so using `setq' instead is practically always a bug
> indeed.
I am puzzled by that statement. First, it seems to say that the
definitions of the variables are careful, so that they DTRT if the
user sets one with setq in an init file.
Then it seems to say that setting one of these variable with setq (in
an init file?) is almost surely a bug.
Those two statements are almost opposites.
Did I misunderstand?
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-16 21:50 bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable' Drew Adams
2015-10-16 23:57 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-26 22:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-29 19:05 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-29 22:36 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-29 22:52 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-29 22:58 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-31 3:06 ` bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Richard Stallman
2021-08-31 3:43 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-31 16:15 ` bug#21695: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-31 16:15 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-02 6:53 ` Kevin Vigouroux via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-02 17:08 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-03 9:54 ` bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable' Kevin Vigouroux via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-01 3:07 ` bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Howard Melman
2021-09-02 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-02 6:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 17:08 ` bug#21695: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-02 17:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-05 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-05 3:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-06 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-08 3:23 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-08 7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-09 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-09 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-09 7:43 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 11:44 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 12:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09 12:12 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 12:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09 12:40 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 12:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09 13:04 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 13:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09 14:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-10 10:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-10 14:26 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 8:23 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 8:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 9:30 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 9:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 9:54 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 10:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 10:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 21:26 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 22:11 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 7:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13 9:11 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 9:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13 13:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 12:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 11:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 8:03 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-13 9:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 12:36 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-13 12:52 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-15 9:27 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-15 10:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-15 20:13 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2021-09-16 6:56 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-18 0:30 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-18 7:34 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-18 9:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 1:17 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-10 3:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-10 13:49 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 1:17 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-02 17:08 ` bug#21695: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-05 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-04 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-01 12:48 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-09-02 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-02 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 17:07 ` bug#21695: [External] : " Drew Adams
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