From: Kevin Vigouroux via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: "larsi@gnus.org" <larsi@gnus.org>,
"21695@debbugs.gnu.org" <21695@debbugs.gnu.org>,
"rms@gnu.org" <rms@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#21695: [External] : Re: bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really?
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 08:53:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6kvzcw1.fsf@laposte.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR10MB548874D0E670289A4C313F1DF3CC9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 31 Aug 2021 16:15:31 +0000")
The potential issue is to hide the developer's view of how to proceed
or how things work by presenting them with another interface. It would
be much better to bridge the gap between the user and the developer.
Choosing to replace `setq' with `customize-set-variable' would be like
cutting yourself off from an alternative path.
In other words, this would lead to the following situations.
‣ customize-set-variable: “Okay, so I choose the value of this
parameter.”
‣ setq: “I need to change the value of this variable to change the
operation.”
Even though `customize-set-variable' is more convenient at first, it is
a bit like discouraging the user from taking another route by blocking
the way: too complicated. With the other approach you can always use
both `setq' and the *Customize* interface (simultaneously and as the
last resort).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-02 6:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-16 21:50 bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable' Drew Adams
2015-10-16 23:57 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-26 22:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-29 19:05 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-29 22:36 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-29 22:52 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-29 22:58 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-31 3:06 ` bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Richard Stallman
2021-08-31 3:43 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-31 16:15 ` bug#21695: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-31 16:15 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-02 6:53 ` Kevin Vigouroux via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2021-09-02 17:08 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-03 9:54 ` bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable' Kevin Vigouroux via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-01 3:07 ` bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Howard Melman
2021-09-02 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-02 6:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 17:08 ` bug#21695: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-02 17:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-05 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-05 3:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-06 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-08 3:23 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-08 7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-09 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-09 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-09 7:43 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 11:44 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 12:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09 12:12 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 12:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09 12:40 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 12:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09 13:04 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 13:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09 14:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-10 10:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-10 14:26 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 8:23 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 8:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 9:30 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 9:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 9:54 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 10:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 10:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 21:26 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 22:11 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 7:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13 9:11 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 9:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13 13:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 12:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 11:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 8:03 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-13 9:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 12:36 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-13 12:52 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-15 9:27 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-15 10:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-15 20:13 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-16 6:56 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-18 0:30 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-18 7:34 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-18 9:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 1:17 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-10 3:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-10 13:49 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 1:17 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-02 17:08 ` bug#21695: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-05 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-04 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-01 12:48 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-09-02 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-02 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 17:07 ` bug#21695: [External] : " Drew Adams
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