* bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded @ 2009-02-02 5:55 ` Eli Zaretskii 2009-02-02 7:02 ` Glenn Morris 2009-02-02 8:05 ` bug#2150: marked as done (23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded) Emacs bug Tracking System 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-02-02 5:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-pretest-bug In previous Emacs versions, rmail-ignored-headers was autoloaded, but not in 23.0.90. This causes failures at startup if your ~/.emacs customizes that option. In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) of 2009-02-02 on fencepost configured using `configure '--without-x'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: nil default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: ESC [ > 0 ; 1 3 6 ; 0 c C-x C-f e m a c s . c v TAB e m TAB ESC DEL p r e TAB e m a TAB 3 TAB / l i s TAB m a i TAB r m a TAB . e TAB RET C-s i g n o r e d - C-x C-f ~ / e m a c s C-g C-x C-z C-x C-f ESC DEL ESC DEL ESC DEL ESC DEL DEL DEL 3 TAB DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL TAB TAB ESC DEL ESC DEL ESC DEL TAB TAB e m TAB - 2 2 TAB TAB TAB - 2 2 TAB 3 TAB l i s TAB / m a i TAB r m a TAB . e l RET C-s C-s C-x b RET ESC x r e p o r t TAB RET Recent messages: ("/home/e/eliz/emacs.cvs/pretest/emacs-23.0.90/src/emacs") For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Mark saved where search started Quit Making completion list... [3 times] Mark saved where search started ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded 2009-02-02 5:55 ` bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-02-02 7:02 ` Glenn Morris 2009-02-02 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier 2009-02-02 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii 2009-02-02 8:05 ` bug#2150: marked as done (23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded) Emacs bug Tracking System 1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-02-02 7:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 2150 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > In previous Emacs versions, rmail-ignored-headers was autoloaded, but > not in 23.0.90. This causes failures at startup if your ~/.emacs > customizes that option. That would depend on how you customize it (presumably you modify it in some way that accesses the default value, rather than just setting it unconditionally); but obviously just add the autoload back again if it's causing problems. (In general, some files seem to have been written under the assumption that all defcustoms should be autoloaded. I think this is bogus, but once this assumption has been made, it can become impossible to ever take the autoloads away, for the reason you report here.) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded 2009-02-02 7:02 ` Glenn Morris @ 2009-02-02 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier 2009-02-02 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2009-02-02 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2150 > (In general, some files seem to have been written under the assumption > that all defcustoms should be autoloaded. I think this is bogus, but Agreed: autoloading variables is evil. > once this assumption has been made, it can become impossible to ever > take the autoloads away, for the reason you report here.) "Me too" Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded 2009-02-02 7:02 ` Glenn Morris 2009-02-02 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier @ 2009-02-02 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii 2009-02-02 22:34 ` Glenn Morris 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-02-02 20:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2150 > From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> > Cc: 2150@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com > Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:02:45 -0500 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > In previous Emacs versions, rmail-ignored-headers was autoloaded, but > > not in 23.0.90. This causes failures at startup if your ~/.emacs > > customizes that option. > > That would depend on how you customize it (presumably you modify it in > some way that accesses the default value, rather than just setting it > unconditionally) I customize variables in the simplest possible way: with a setq. This always worked for me, since time immemoriam. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded 2009-02-02 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-02-02 22:34 ` Glenn Morris 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-02-02 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 2150 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I customize variables in the simplest possible way: with a setq. This > always worked for me, since time immemoriam. I was referring to the difference between: (setq rmail-ignored-headers "foo") and (setq rmail-ignored-headers (concat "foo\\|" rmail-ignored-headers)) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#2150: marked as done (23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded) 2009-02-02 5:55 ` bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded Eli Zaretskii 2009-02-02 7:02 ` Glenn Morris @ 2009-02-02 8:05 ` Emacs bug Tracking System 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Emacs bug Tracking System @ 2009-02-02 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Glenn Morris [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 898 bytes --] Your message dated Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:53:30 -0500 with message-id <fzab95z345.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> and subject line Re: bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded has caused the Emacs bug report #2150, regarding 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com immediately.) -- 2150: http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=2150 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com with problems [-- Attachment #2: Type: message/rfc822, Size: 2701 bytes --] From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:55:21 -0500 Message-ID: <E1LTrmD-0007QQ-J7@fencepost.gnu.org> In previous Emacs versions, rmail-ignored-headers was autoloaded, but not in 23.0.90. This causes failures at startup if your ~/.emacs customizes that option. In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) of 2009-02-02 on fencepost configured using `configure '--without-x'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: nil default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: ESC [ > 0 ; 1 3 6 ; 0 c C-x C-f e m a c s . c v TAB e m TAB ESC DEL p r e TAB e m a TAB 3 TAB / l i s TAB m a i TAB r m a TAB . e TAB RET C-s i g n o r e d - C-x C-f ~ / e m a c s C-g C-x C-z C-x C-f ESC DEL ESC DEL ESC DEL ESC DEL DEL DEL 3 TAB DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL TAB TAB ESC DEL ESC DEL ESC DEL TAB TAB e m TAB - 2 2 TAB TAB TAB - 2 2 TAB 3 TAB l i s TAB / m a i TAB r m a TAB . e l RET C-s C-s C-x b RET ESC x r e p o r t TAB RET Recent messages: ("/home/e/eliz/emacs.cvs/pretest/emacs-23.0.90/src/emacs") For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Mark saved where search started Quit Making completion list... [3 times] Mark saved where search started [-- Attachment #3: Type: message/rfc822, Size: 1591 bytes --] From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> To: 2150-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: Re: bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:53:30 -0500 Message-ID: <fzab95z345.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Autoload restored. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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