bug#16292: Emacs trunk does not use `...' for quoting names anymore

bug#16292: Emacs trunk does not use `...' for quoting names anymore

[Tu Do]

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Please note that when I mean two config.log files use */usr/bin/makeinfo*,
I really mean the logs contains the path to the makeinfo I'm using.


On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Tu Do <tuhdo1710@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi I am the user in discussion,
>
> The output is in the attached file. Probably the Emacs pretest got
> pre-compiled info documents?
>
> Some relevant information:
>
> - Output from *makeinfo --version*:
>
> makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 5.2
>>
>> Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <
>> http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
>> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
>> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>>
>
> - Which *makeinfo* I am using:
>
> /usr/bin/makeinfo
>>
>
> - The other two config.log files for each Emacs version, both use
> */usr/bin/makeinfo*
>
> I also installed texinfo 5.1 and the result is the same.
>
> OS:
>
> No LSB modules are available.
>> Distributor ID:    Ubuntu
>> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
>> Release:    14.04
>> Codename:    trusty
>>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tu.
>
>
> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi again,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for that info - I've passed it along to the bug thread.
>>
>>
>>
>> From the bug thread there is this request from you. Could you check this?
>>
>>
>>
>> > Run 'makeinfo' on the attached file t.texi and look at the quoting in
>>
>> > the output file t.info. It should use ASCII accent-grave and apostrophe
>>
>> > with old texinfo, and Unicode curly single quotes with new texinfo.
>>
>> > Similarly, the double quotes should use ASCII undirected double-quote
>>
>> > (both times) with old texinfo, and Unicode curly double quotes with new
>>
>> > texinfo.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thx - Drew
>>
>>
>>
>> I built from source with makinfo 5.2. However, makeinfo 5.2 works fine
>> for Emacs pretest (emacs 24.3.90), but not for Emacs trunk(24.4.50):
>>
>> bzr branch bzr://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/emacs/
>>
>> *trunk*
>>
>> Here are the steps to build:
>>
>> - ./configure --with-x-toolkit=gtk
>>
>> - make
>>
>> - sudo make install
>>
>
>

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bug#16292: Fwd: Emacs trunk does not use `...' for quoting names anymore

[Paul Eggert]

OK, thanks, so it appears that you're using the new makeinfo, which is 
doing the right thing by its lights, namely, it's using Unicode directed 
curly quotes ‘like this’ and it is not using undirected ASCII quotes 
'like this'.

If info+.el can't handle curly quotes, it needs to be fixed regardless 
of what we do for Emacs info files, as other projects are using this 
style already.

I understand that Drew would prefer some trivial way to do decide which 
style to search for, but I don't see anything obvious.  One possibility 
would be to use curly quotes if the file contains curly quotes anywhere, 
but that's not trivial.  I suppose Drew could file a bug report with the 
Texinfo folks and wait a few months, but there are lot of .info files 
out in the wild already, so it looks like he may have to go with 
something nontrivial.