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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
@ 2014-10-22 15:26 Drew Adams
  2014-10-22 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-10-22 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 18795

emacs -Q -nw

Click the tiny X icon in the upper right of the frame, to close the
frame and thus quit Emacs.  You get a popup MS Windows dialog:

  GNU Emacs: The extensible self-documenting text editor has stopped
  working

  A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Please close the
  program.

  --> Close the program

Clicking `Close the program' then closes the program.  This error dialog
box should not appear at all - Emacs should just close.


In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
 of 2014-10-06 on LEG570
Bzr revision: 118063 monnier@iro.umontreal.ca-20141006174756-y7ha091r491l1ijw
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
 `configure --enable-checking=yes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=-O0 -g3'
 CPPFLAGS=-DGLYPH_DEBUG=1'





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 15:26 Drew Adams
@ 2014-10-22 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2014-10-22 16:28   ` Dani Moncayo
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-10-22 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 18795

> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:26:11 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> 
> emacs -Q -nw
> 
> Click the tiny X icon in the upper right of the frame, to close the
> frame and thus quit Emacs.  You get a popup MS Windows dialog:
> 
>   GNU Emacs: The extensible self-documenting text editor has stopped
>   working
> 
>   A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Please close the
>   program.

Not reproducible with today's trunk.

> In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
>  of 2014-10-06 on LEG570

This is 2 weeks old, so perhaps the problem was already fixed.

Can someone else reproduce this with a recent trunk?





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2014-10-22 16:28   ` Dani Moncayo
  2014-10-22 16:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dani Moncayo @ 2014-10-22 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 18795

>> emacs -Q -nw
>>
>> Click the tiny X icon in the upper right of the frame, to close the
>> frame and thus quit Emacs.  You get a popup MS Windows dialog:
>>
>>   GNU Emacs: The extensible self-documenting text editor has stopped
>>   working
>>
>>   A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Please close the
>>   program.
>
> Not reproducible with today's trunk.
>
>> In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
>>  of 2014-10-06 on LEG570
>
> This is 2 weeks old, so perhaps the problem was already fixed.
>
> Can someone else reproduce this with a recent trunk?

I just tried with:

  GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
   of 2014-10-20 on LEG570
  Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

on a Windows 7 machine, and the cmd console window closes normally,
without any popup dialog.


-- 
Dani Moncayo





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 16:28   ` Dani Moncayo
@ 2014-10-22 16:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2014-10-22 16:43       ` Dani Moncayo
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-10-22 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: 18795-done

> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 18:28:35 +0200
> From: Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com>
> Cc: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>, 18795@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> >> emacs -Q -nw
> >>
> >> Click the tiny X icon in the upper right of the frame, to close the
> >> frame and thus quit Emacs.  You get a popup MS Windows dialog:
> >>
> >>   GNU Emacs: The extensible self-documenting text editor has stopped
> >>   working
> >>
> >>   A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Please close the
> >>   program.
> >
> > Not reproducible with today's trunk.
> >
> >> In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
> >>  of 2014-10-06 on LEG570
> >
> > This is 2 weeks old, so perhaps the problem was already fixed.
> >
> > Can someone else reproduce this with a recent trunk?
> 
> I just tried with:
> 
>   GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
>    of 2014-10-20 on LEG570
>   Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> 
> on a Windows 7 machine, and the cmd console window closes normally,
> without any popup dialog.

Thanks, then I guess we can close this bug.





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 16:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2014-10-22 16:43       ` Dani Moncayo
  2014-10-22 17:53         ` Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dani Moncayo @ 2014-10-22 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 18795-done

>> > Can someone else reproduce this with a recent trunk?
>>
>> I just tried with:
>>
>>   GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
>>    of 2014-10-20 on LEG570
>>   Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>>
>> on a Windows 7 machine, and the cmd console window closes normally,
>> without any popup dialog.
>
> Thanks, then I guess we can close this bug.

Drew, you may want to try the above binary.  It's available from

  https://sourceforge.net/projects/emacs-bin/files/snapshots/

-- 
Dani Moncayo





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 16:43       ` Dani Moncayo
@ 2014-10-22 17:53         ` Drew Adams
  2014-10-22 18:00           ` Dani Moncayo
  2014-10-23 16:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-10-22 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: 18795-done

> Drew, you may want to try the above binary.  It's available from
>   https://sourceforge.net/projects/emacs-bin/files/snapshots/

Thanks, Dani.

I downloaded it and tested for this bug. Unfortunately, I still see exactly the same thing: the error dialog pops up. I'm on Windows 7, 64-bit, in case that makes a difference.

In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
 of 2014-10-20 on LEG570
Repository revision: 118168 rgm@gnu.org-20141020195941-icp42t8ttcnud09g
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
 `configure --enable-checking=yes,glyphs CPPFLAGS=-DGLYPH_DEBUG=1'

---

BTW, I've missed the frequent builds that you used to make.  But I understand that it is a lot of work and takes time.  Just want to let you know that I appreciate your building Emacs for us, and I definitely make use of each build you create.

BTW2: Do you know of a Windows build of the new release? I don't see any posted at the GNU site for them (e.g. http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/)

Thx - Drew





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 17:53         ` Drew Adams
@ 2014-10-22 18:00           ` Dani Moncayo
  2014-10-22 18:07             ` Glenn Morris
  2014-10-22 18:22             ` Drew Adams
  2014-10-23 16:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dani Moncayo @ 2014-10-22 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 18795-done

> BTW2: Do you know of a Windows build of the new release?

https://sourceforge.net/projects/emacs-bin/files/releases/

> I don't see any posted at the GNU site for them (e.g. http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/)

It seems that nobody has yet uploaded there a build of the recent 24.4
release.  I hope someone will, because I guess that many people look
there for the Emacs binaries.

-- 
Dani Moncayo





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 18:00           ` Dani Moncayo
@ 2014-10-22 18:07             ` Glenn Morris
  2014-10-22 18:19               ` Dani Moncayo
  2014-10-22 18:22             ` Drew Adams
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2014-10-22 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: 18795

Dani Moncayo wrote:

> It seems that nobody has yet uploaded there a build of the recent 24.4
> release.  I hope someone will

You could do it.





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 18:07             ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-10-22 18:19               ` Dani Moncayo
  2014-10-22 18:25                 ` Glenn Morris
  2014-10-22 18:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dani Moncayo @ 2014-10-22 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 18795

>> It seems that nobody has yet uploaded there a build of the recent 24.4
>> release.  I hope someone will
>
> You could do it.

I could try.

Is there a detailed procedure to follow documented somewhere?  If not,
I have some questions:
1. What configure options should I use?
2. How can I generate the ".sig" files?
3. How can I upload the files there?

-- 
Dani Moncayo





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 18:00           ` Dani Moncayo
  2014-10-22 18:07             ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-10-22 18:22             ` Drew Adams
  2014-10-22 19:56               ` Glenn Morris
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-10-22 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: 18795-done

> > BTW2: Do you know of a Windows build of the new release?
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/emacs-bin/files/releases/

Interesting - thanks; got it.

I saw no announcement for that.  This is the only announcement I saw:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-10/msg00713.html

That was sent to emacs-devel.  I saw nothing at all in the info-gnu list, which previously was used for such announcments.

And typically in the past, a day or two after the main announcement there would be an announcement in emacs-devel and in help-emacs-windows that a Windows binary was available at an HTTP URL.

> > I don't see any posted at the GNU site for them (e.g.
> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/)
> 
> It seems that nobody has yet uploaded there a build of the recent
> 24.4 release.  I hope someone will, because I guess that many people look
> there for the Emacs binaries.

I hope so too.  That is the site for GNU Emacs MS Windows binaries.  It is what users expect.  And it is what they find when they google for "gnu emacs windows".

And I hope it gets announced to users, if that site gets updated to include it.

Thx - Drew





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 18:19               ` Dani Moncayo
@ 2014-10-22 18:25                 ` Glenn Morris
  2014-10-22 21:02                   ` Dani Moncayo
  2014-10-22 18:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2014-10-22 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: 18795

Dani Moncayo wrote:

> 1. What configure options should I use?

Dunno. Base them on whatever was used for 24.3?

> 2. How can I generate the ".sig" files?
> 3. How can I upload the files there?

See https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Automated-FTP-Uploads.html





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 18:19               ` Dani Moncayo
  2014-10-22 18:25                 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-10-22 18:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2014-10-22 18:46                   ` Dani Moncayo
  2014-10-24 18:34                   ` Glenn Morris
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-10-22 18:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: 18795

> From: Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com>
> Cc: 18795@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> 1. What configure options should I use?

Only --prefix, and nothing else, please.  The exactt value of the
prefix doesn't matter, as Emacs will determine the directories it
needs during startup, relative to where its binary lives.

It would be best to strip temacs.exe manually ("strip temacs.exe") and
then re-dump Emacs, before running "make install".  That's because
"make install-strip" on Windows will produce a binary that Windows
will refuse to run (this is fixed on the trunk), and OTOH uploading a
binary zip with 2 50MB binaries bloated by DWARF-2 debug info is not
the best idea.

Please remember to put bin/libXpm-nox4.dll in the binary zip, so that
users could have an Emacs capable of display the XPM icons.

Thanks.





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 18:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2014-10-22 18:46                   ` Dani Moncayo
  2014-10-22 19:33                     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2014-10-24 18:34                   ` Glenn Morris
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dani Moncayo @ 2014-10-22 18:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 18795

>> 1. What configure options should I use?
>
> Only --prefix, and nothing else, please.  The exactt value of the
> prefix doesn't matter, as Emacs will determine the directories it
> needs during startup, relative to where its binary lives.

If the exact value of the prefix does not matter, the what is wrong
with the default value?

> It would be best to strip temacs.exe manually ("strip temacs.exe") and
> then re-dump Emacs, before running "make install".

How can I re-dump Emacs?  (sorry I've never done such thing manually)

> Please remember to put bin/libXpm-nox4.dll in the binary zip, so that
> users could have an Emacs capable of display the XPM icons.

Can you give me the URL to grab that library (binary and sourcecode)?
I have a link that seems no longer valid [1].


-----------------
[1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libXpm/snapshot/

-- 
Dani Moncayo





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 18:46                   ` Dani Moncayo
@ 2014-10-22 19:33                     ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-10-22 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: 18795

> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:46:53 +0200
> From: Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com>
> Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>, 18795@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> >> 1. What configure options should I use?
> >
> > Only --prefix, and nothing else, please.  The exactt value of the
> > prefix doesn't matter, as Emacs will determine the directories it
> > needs during startup, relative to where its binary lives.
> 
> If the exact value of the prefix does not matter, the what is wrong
> with the default value?

The principle.

> > It would be best to strip temacs.exe manually ("strip temacs.exe") and
> > then re-dump Emacs, before running "make install".
> 
> How can I re-dump Emacs?  (sorry I've never done such thing manually)

Just type "make" after stripping, and if that doesn't produce a new
emacs.exe, "touch temacs.exe" should; or just delete emacs.exe and say
"make".

> > Please remember to put bin/libXpm-nox4.dll in the binary zip, so that
> > users could have an Emacs capable of display the XPM icons.
> 
> Can you give me the URL to grab that library (binary and sourcecode)?
> I have a link that seems no longer valid [1].

One place is here:

  http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/xpm.htm

Or you could use the sources that are already on the GNU FTP site:

  http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/libxpm-3.5.8-w32-src.zip

and build the DLL yourself.





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 18:22             ` Drew Adams
@ 2014-10-22 19:56               ` Glenn Morris
  2014-10-22 20:34                 ` Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2014-10-22 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 18795

Drew Adams wrote:

>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/emacs-bin/files/releases/
>
> Interesting - thanks; got it.
>
> I saw no announcement for that. 
> This is the only announcement I saw:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-10/msg00713.html

The Emacs development list is not the place for people to announce that
they have (gasp) compiled Emacs and put it on a server.

> That was sent to emacs-devel. I saw nothing at all in the info-gnu
> list, which previously was used for such announcments.

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2014-10/msg00008.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu-emacs/2014-10/msg00002.html





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 19:56               ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-10-22 20:34                 ` Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-10-22 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Glenn Morris, 18795

> > I saw no announcement for that.
> > This is the only announcement I saw:
> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-
> > 10/msg00713.html
> 
> The Emacs development list is not the place for people to announce
> that they have (gasp) compiled Emacs and put it on a server.

It was announced in the past.

But I guess you are hinting that in spite of this message you sent:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-10/msg00797.html,
when a Windows binary is uploaded there will be no announcement for
it.  That is different from past practice.

> > That was sent to emacs-devel. I saw nothing at all in the info-gnu
> > list, which previously was used for such announcments.
> 
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2014-10/msg00008.html
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu-emacs/2014-10/msg00002.html

I am subscribed to info-gnu-emacs@gnu.org. It's possible that I
received the message twice, once for emacs-devel and once for
info-gnu-emacs, and I deleted the latter.

The real point is that there was no announcement of a posting
of Windows binaries.  No problem, if it is just a matter of time,
as suggested in your emacs-devel msg (today) cited above.

But it will be a shame if the practice of announcing this is
dropped because you don't think posting a Windows binary is
announcement-worthy.   On n'arrete pas le progres.





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 18:25                 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-10-22 21:02                   ` Dani Moncayo
  2014-10-22 21:28                     ` Glenn Morris
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dani Moncayo @ 2014-10-22 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 18795

>> 2. How can I generate the ".sig" files?
>> 3. How can I upload the files there?
>
> See https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Automated-FTP-Uploads.html

I'm trying to follow that procedure from a Cygwin system.

I've been unable to do the "Optional but recommended" step in

  https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Automated-Upload-Registration.html#Automated-Upload-Registration

Because
  gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --send-keys <keyid>

gives here this

  gpg: WARNING: unsafe permissions on configuration file
`/home/Dani/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
  gpg: WARNING: unsafe enclosing directory permissions on
configuration file `/home/Dani/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
  gpg: external program calls are disabled due to unsafe options file
permissions
  gpg: keyserver communications error: general error
  gpg: keyserver send failed: general error

I've tried to change the file permissions but it doesn't work:
  Dani@LEG570 $ pwd
  /home/Dani/.gnupg
  Dani@LEG570 $ ls -o
  total 29
  -rw-rw---- 1 Dani 9188 Oct 22 21:29 gpg.conf
  -rw-rw---- 1 Dani 1192 Oct 22 21:31 pubring.gpg
  -rw-rw---- 1 Dani 1192 Oct 22 21:31 pubring.gpg~
  -rw-rw---- 1 Dani  600 Oct 22 21:31 random_seed
  -rw-rw---- 1 Dani 2570 Oct 22 21:31 secring.gpg
  -rw-rw---- 1 Dani 1280 Oct 22 21:31 trustdb.gpg
  Dani@LEG570 $ chmod 600 *
  Dani@LEG570 $ ls -o
  total 29
  -rw-rw---- 1 Dani 9188 Oct 22 21:29 gpg.conf
  -rw-rw---- 1 Dani 1192 Oct 22 21:31 pubring.gpg
  -rw-rw---- 1 Dani 1192 Oct 22 21:31 pubring.gpg~
  -rw-rw---- 1 Dani  600 Oct 22 21:31 random_seed
  -rw-rw---- 1 Dani 2570 Oct 22 21:31 secring.gpg
  -rw-rw---- 1 Dani 1280 Oct 22 21:31 trustdb.gpg


Well, ok. That's an "optional" step, so let's move on:

In step 3 (from the same URL above), I'm told to (a) generate a "msg"
file, with an attachement, then (b) sign it, and finally (c) send it.
But how can I do (a)? I.e. how can I create that "msg" file with an
attachement inside?  I've never done such thing (I've always built my
messages from either a web browser or an email client such as Outlook
- and I have not email client program installed in this machine...)

-- 
Dani Moncayo





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 21:02                   ` Dani Moncayo
@ 2014-10-22 21:28                     ` Glenn Morris
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2014-10-22 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: 18795

Dani Moncayo wrote:

> In step 3 (from the same URL above), I'm told to (a) generate a "msg"
> file, with an attachement, then (b) sign it, and finally (c) send it.
> But how can I do (a)? I.e. how can I create that "msg" file with an
> attachement inside?  I've never done such thing (I've always built my
> messages from either a web browser or an email client such as Outlook
> - and I have not email client program installed in this machine...)

It's been a while, but I think I interpreted "as an attachment" simply
as "inline at the end of the body."





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 17:53         ` Drew Adams
  2014-10-22 18:00           ` Dani Moncayo
@ 2014-10-23 16:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-10-23 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 18795

> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 10:53:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: 18795-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> 
> > Drew, you may want to try the above binary.  It's available from
> >   https://sourceforge.net/projects/emacs-bin/files/snapshots/
> 
> Thanks, Dani.
> 
> I downloaded it and tested for this bug. Unfortunately, I still see exactly the same thing: the error dialog pops up. I'm on Windows 7, 64-bit, in case that makes a difference.

Both Dani and myself tried this on 64-bit Windows 7, and couldn't
reproduce the problem.

Please tell more about how you invoked Emacs (from which shell, which
directory, etc.).  Also, look in the Event Viewer, under Applications,
and tell what Windows reports about this crash -- it should report at
least one address where the exception happened.





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
       [not found]           ` <<83r3xy7nwr.fsf@gnu.org>
@ 2014-10-23 17:42             ` Drew Adams
  2014-10-23 18:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-10-23 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii, Drew Adams; +Cc: 18795

> Both Dani and myself tried this on 64-bit Windows 7, and couldn't
> reproduce the problem.
> 
> Please tell more about how you invoked Emacs (from which shell,
> which directory, etc.).

I start it from a desktop shortcut, with this info:

  Target: D:\Emacs-24.4\bin\emacs.exe -Q --debug-init -nw
  Start in: 

Start in is empty.  Same thing if I put an existing directory in `Start in' (e.g. d:\usr\me\foo).  Same thing if I also put that directory at the end of the `Target' line, enclosed in "" (i.e., to open it with Dired).

> Also, look in the Event Viewer, under Applications, and tell what
> Windows reports about this crash -- it should report at
> least one address where the exception happened.

I see nothing about Emacs there. I'm looking in Computer Management > Event Viewer > Applications and Services Logs. And when I click the X and then click "Close the program", nothing seems to change in that viewer.

Should I drill down into one of the subdirs (none of which seem related to Emacs)? If so, which one? There are zillions of subsubsubfolders etc.







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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-23 17:42             ` Drew Adams
@ 2014-10-23 18:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-10-23 18:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 18795

> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:42:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: dmoncayo@gmail.com, 18795@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Both Dani and myself tried this on 64-bit Windows 7, and couldn't
> > reproduce the problem.
> > 
> > Please tell more about how you invoked Emacs (from which shell,
> > which directory, etc.).
> 
> I start it from a desktop shortcut, with this info:
> 
>   Target: D:\Emacs-24.4\bin\emacs.exe -Q --debug-init -nw
>   Start in: 

That is certainly not what I tried.  But trying this now, I cannot
reproduce the problem, at least not on Windows XP.  Maybe I will see
it on Windows 7 later.

> > Also, look in the Event Viewer, under Applications, and tell what
> > Windows reports about this crash -- it should report at
> > least one address where the exception happened.
> 
> I see nothing about Emacs there. I'm looking in Computer Management
> > Event Viewer > Applications and Services Logs.

No, that's not the right place.  Look in Event Viewer > Windows Logs >
Application.





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
       [not found] ` <<83lho67iya.fsf@gnu.org>
@ 2014-10-23 18:23   ` Drew Adams
  2014-10-23 18:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2014-10-23 18:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2014-10-23 18:25   ` Drew Adams
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-10-23 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 18795

> > I see nothing about Emacs there. I'm looking in Computer
> > Management > Event Viewer > Applications and Services Logs.
> 
> No, that's not the right place.  Look in Event Viewer >
> Windows Logs > Application.

I'm sorry to say that nothing shows up there either.





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
       [not found] ` <<83lho67iya.fsf@gnu.org>
  2014-10-23 18:23   ` Drew Adams
@ 2014-10-23 18:25   ` Drew Adams
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-10-23 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii, Drew Adams; +Cc: 18795

> > I start it from a desktop shortcut, with this info:
> >
> >   Target: D:\Emacs-24.4\bin\emacs.exe -Q --debug-init -nw
> >   Start in:
> 
> That is certainly not what I tried.

FYI, I always start Emacs from a shortcut - either one that is on the desktop or one that is in the taskbar.

> But trying this now, I cannot reproduce the problem, at least not
> on Windows XP.  Maybe I will see it on Windows 7 later.

I'm using Windows 7 64-bit, in case it makes a difference.





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-23 18:23   ` Drew Adams
@ 2014-10-23 18:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2014-10-23 18:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-10-23 18:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 18795

> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:23:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: dmoncayo@gmail.com, 18795@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > > I see nothing about Emacs there. I'm looking in Computer
> > > Management > Event Viewer > Applications and Services Logs.
> > 
> > No, that's not the right place.  Look in Event Viewer >
> > Windows Logs > Application.
> 
> I'm sorry to say that nothing shows up there either.

That's next to impossible.  Every application that crashes causes an
entry there.  Perhaps try other sub-folders under Windows Logs.

If you cannot provide any details, and no one can reproduce this,
there's no hope of solving this.






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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-23 18:23   ` Drew Adams
  2014-10-23 18:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2014-10-23 18:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-10-23 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 18795

> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:23:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: dmoncayo@gmail.com, 18795@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I'm sorry to say that nothing shows up there either.

Do you see any events at all under Application (or any other subfolder
of Windows Logs) around the time when Emacs "stopped working"?





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       [not found] ` <<83h9yu7i0u.fsf@gnu.org>
@ 2014-10-23 18:40   ` Drew Adams
  2014-10-23 19:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-10-23 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 18795

> > I'm sorry to say that nothing shows up there either.

Ah! Now I see it. It didn't show before. I looked for a refresh, but couldn't find anything. I closed it and just now reopened it, after getting your mail.

This is what I see:

Faulting application name: emacs.exe, version: 24.4.0.0, time stamp: 0x54456b6c
Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x056371fc
Faulting process id: 0x1ab4
Faulting application start time: 0x01cfeeee1a602620
Faulting application path: D:\Emacs-24.4\bin\emacs.exe
Faulting module path: unknown
Report Id: 59fa6c83-5ae1-11e4-9c07-9c2a7085233e

Log name: Application
Source: Application Error
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
OpCode: 
More Information: <I clicked and it sent info to MS, but got back "No results were found..."





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-23 18:40   ` bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs Drew Adams
@ 2014-10-23 19:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2014-10-23 19:43       ` Dani Moncayo
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-10-23 19:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 18795

> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:40:02 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: dmoncayo@gmail.com, 18795@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Faulting application name: emacs.exe, version: 24.4.0.0, time stamp: 0x54456b6c
> Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
> Exception code: 0xc0000005
> Fault offset: 0x056371fc
> Faulting process id: 0x1ab4
> Faulting application start time: 0x01cfeeee1a602620
> Faulting application path: D:\Emacs-24.4\bin\emacs.exe

OK, thanks.

Dani, can you please see what that address ("Fault offset")
corresponds to in the binary that Drew uses?  You need to add
0x1000000 to that address first, as you did with addresses shown by
Process Explorer.

Thanks.





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-23 19:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2014-10-23 19:43       ` Dani Moncayo
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dani Moncayo @ 2014-10-23 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 18795

>> Faulting application name: emacs.exe, version: 24.4.0.0, time stamp: 0x54456b6c
>> Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
>> Exception code: 0xc0000005
>> Fault offset: 0x056371fc
>> Faulting process id: 0x1ab4
>> Faulting application start time: 0x01cfeeee1a602620
>> Faulting application path: D:\Emacs-24.4\bin\emacs.exe
>
> OK, thanks.
>
> Dani, can you please see what that address ("Fault offset")
> corresponds to in the binary that Drew uses?  You need to add
> 0x1000000 to that address first, as you did with addresses shown by
> Process Explorer.

Dani@LEG570 $ ./addr2line.exe -e ./emacs.exe 0x066371fc
??:0

:-(

-- 
Dani Moncayo





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-22 18:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2014-10-22 18:46                   ` Dani Moncayo
@ 2014-10-24 18:34                   ` Glenn Morris
  2014-10-24 19:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2014-10-24 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 18795

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> It would be best to strip temacs.exe manually ("strip temacs.exe") and
> then re-dump Emacs, before running "make install".  That's because
> "make install-strip" on Windows will produce a binary that Windows
> will refuse to run (this is fixed on the trunk), and OTOH uploading a
> binary zip with 2 50MB binaries bloated by DWARF-2 debug info is not
> the best idea.

FWIW this is contrary to the GNU coding standards.
(But then so is using MS Windows. :) )

https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Standard-Targets.html

  Do not strip executables when installing them. This helps eventual
  debugging that may be needed later, and nowadays disk space is cheap [...]





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* bug#18795: 25.0.50; Error when click window-mgr icon to close window (frame) and quit Emacs
  2014-10-24 18:34                   ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-10-24 19:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-10-24 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 18795

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com>,  18795@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:34:27 -0400
> 
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > It would be best to strip temacs.exe manually ("strip temacs.exe") and
> > then re-dump Emacs, before running "make install".  That's because
> > "make install-strip" on Windows will produce a binary that Windows
> > will refuse to run (this is fixed on the trunk), and OTOH uploading a
> > binary zip with 2 50MB binaries bloated by DWARF-2 debug info is not
> > the best idea.
> 
> FWIW this is contrary to the GNU coding standards.

Yes, I know.





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