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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: jonas@bernoul.li, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 62751@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#62751: 29.0.90; New libraries that still need to be assigned to packages
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 10:46:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmnXwXnw=A97QgtsPWqZxnzAvQAYRmoC29_0ZXhKpHcBHQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83il7q8evg.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 08:46:46 -0700
>> Cc: jonas@bernoul.li, 62751@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
>>
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>> >> +4.  Check that all new Lisp libraries belong to sensible packages.
>> >> +    Run "make -C lisp finder-data" and check the diff of the generated
>> >> +    file against the previously released Emacs version to see what has
>> >> +    changed.
>> >> +
>> >
>> > This could benefit from some criteria for what is and isn't reasonable
>> > in these diffs, or what to do with the differences.  Because otherwise
>> > "check the diff" doesn't tell how to check it.
>>
>> I didn't put anything, because I don't know how to summarize that in a
>> few short words.  Ideas for how to do that are welcome.
>
> Well, if you tell it in as many words as you need (or point me to
> where it was already described up-thread), I could try suggesting a
> concise version.

Here's a typical excerpt of the difference between emacs-29 and master:

--- emacs-release/lisp/finder-inf.el	2023-09-29 11:44:34.000000000 +0200
+++ emacs/lisp/finder-inf.el	2023-10-01 19:36:12.000000000 +0200
@@ -120,17 +120,18 @@
   (ediff . [(2 81 6) nil "a comprehensive visual interface to diff & patch"])
   (edmacro . [nil nil "keyboard macro editor"])
   (edt . [nil nil "enhanced EDT keypad mode emulation for GNU Emacs"])
-  (eglot . [(1 12 29) nil "The Emacs Client for LSP servers"])
+  (eglot . [(1 15) nil "The Emacs Client for LSP servers"])
   (ehelp . [nil nil "bindings for electric-help mode"])
   (eieio . [(1 4) nil "Enhanced Implementation of Emacs Interpreted Objects"])
   (eieio-core . [(1 4) nil "Core implementation for eieio"])
-  (eldoc . [(1 13 0) nil "Show function arglist or variable docstring
in echo area"])
+  (eldoc . [(1 14 0) nil "Show function arglist or variable docstring
in echo area"])
   (elec-pair . [nil nil "Automatic parenthesis pairing"])
   (electric . [nil nil "window maker and Command loop for `electric' modes"])
   (elide-head . [nil nil "hide headers in files"])
   (elint . [nil nil "Lint Emacs Lisp"])
+  (elixir-ts-mode . [nil nil "Major mode for Elixir with tree-sitter support"])
   (elp . [nil nil "Emacs Lisp Profiler"])
-  (emacs . [(29 1 50) nil "the extensible text editor"])
+  (emacs . [(30 0 50) nil "the extensible text editor"])
   (emacs-authors-mode . [nil nil "font-locking for etc/AUTHORS"])
   (emacs-lock . [nil nil "protect buffers against killing or exiting"])
   (emacs-news-mode . [nil nil "major mode to edit and view the NEWS file"])

We have here two cases:

1. eglot, eldoc, and emacs just have new versions, and therefore need
   no action.

2. elixir-ts-mode is a new package, and we need to consider if that
   package makes sense.  In this case, I'd say it does, but I'm not sure
   how to summarize the reasons why in a precise way.  Perhaps one could
   say something along the lines of "it functions as a standalone
   feature".

In Emacs 29.1, we had several new packages named something like:

    use-package-bind-key
    use-package-core
    use-package-diminish
    [...]
    use-package

In this case, the new packages did _not_ make sense and had to be
consolidated into just one package: use-package.  Again, it is hard for
me to summarize the reasons why.  I suppose it has something to do with
them not working without each other, and thus should better be treated
as one functional whole.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-01 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-10 13:04 bug#62751: 29.0.90; New libraries that still need to be assigned to packages Jonas Bernoulli
2023-04-10 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 16:03 ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-11 17:16   ` Jonas Bernoulli
2023-09-05 23:49     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-16  9:21       ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-16 14:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-17 22:06   ` Jonas Bernoulli via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18  7:34     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-18 11:02       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-18 11:10         ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-18 11:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-21  0:15             ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-21  2:29               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-21  7:26                 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-21 14:01                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-22 12:36                     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-21  7:15               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-21  7:29                 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-23 14:42                 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-24 18:07                   ` John Wiegley
2023-09-24 20:22                     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-24 21:05                       ` John Wiegley
2023-09-26 22:37                       ` Jonas Bernoulli via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18 11:58       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-21  0:06         ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-18 15:19       ` Jonas Bernoulli via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-20 15:59         ` Jonas Bernoulli via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-24 12:29           ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-01 13:11         ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-01 13:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-01 15:46             ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-01 16:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-01 17:46                 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2023-09-18 15:33       ` Jonas Bernoulli via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-21  0:04         ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-21 21:12           ` Jonas Bernoulli via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-22 15:30             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-23 11:35               ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-13 23:33                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-10-14  6:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-14 14:39                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-10-14 16:21                     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-19 23:12       ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-20 23:45         ` Stefan Kangas

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