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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 25581@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#25581: 25.1; Incorrect statement in (elisp) `Hooks'
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:54:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmnNsJMRQQ+vhVcCMJoj2OudQku39xzgXnWmZcbUHxhdvA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k0xo83ww.fsf@gnus.org>

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>
>> The second sentence here is incorrect:
>>
>>  If the variable’s name ends in ‘-function’, then its value is just a
>>  single function, not a list of functions.  ‘add-hook’ cannot be used to
>>  modify such a _single function hook_, and you have to use ‘add-function’
>>  instead (*note Advising Functions::).
>>
>> You CAN use `add-hook' to modify such a single-function hook.
>> Nothing prevents you from doing so.  And nothing even suggests
>> that you should not.  And you have always been able to do so.

I'm not sure the above makes sense.  Doesn't it usually work like:

(setq foo-function 'message)
(add-hook 'foo-function 'error) ; should work?
(funcall foo-function) ; => Lisp error: (invalid-function (error message))

> Well, the name -function suggests that you shouldn't.
>
> I think the confusing thing here is that foo-function isn't a hook at
> all -- variables ending with -function are normally not executed with
> run-hooks at all, so using add-hook on such a variable will normally
> break.
>
> So I'm not sure what that section is doing in the Hooks node at all.  It
> origin starts here, where unfortunately vc-region-history gives up.
>
> My preference here would be just to remove the paragraph, which is
> pretty confusing.

It sort of makes sense when read next to the paragraph before, doesn't
it?  There the concept "abnormal hook" is defined with an explanation of
variables ending in '-functions', and the paragraph about variables
ending in '-function' is written mostly in contrast to that.

I think the confusing thing here is that there are two ways to modify
these single function hooks: setq and add-function.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-24 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-30 16:51 bug#25581: 25.1; Incorrect statement in (elisp) `Hooks' Drew Adams
2017-01-31  3:05 ` npostavs
2017-01-31  3:36   ` Mark Oteiza
2017-01-31  4:06     ` Drew Adams
2017-01-31  3:55   ` Drew Adams
2017-01-31  4:16     ` npostavs
2017-01-31 16:02       ` Drew Adams
2017-02-01  3:35         ` npostavs
2017-02-01 17:01           ` Drew Adams
2017-02-04 21:00             ` npostavs
2017-02-05  2:11               ` Drew Adams
2017-02-10  1:42                 ` npostavs
2017-02-10  3:00                   ` Drew Adams
2020-10-11  2:26               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-11 14:12                 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-24 15:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-24 15:54   ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2020-08-24 15:58     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-24 16:20       ` Drew Adams
2020-08-24 16:13     ` Drew Adams
2020-08-24 16:18     ` Drew Adams
2020-08-26  1:50       ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-26 18:27         ` Drew Adams
2020-08-24 16:01   ` Drew Adams

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