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* bug#17065: 24.3.50; Revise line 5944 of window.el to use `window-width`, instead of `window-total-width`.
@ 2014-03-22  1:32 Keith David Bershatsky
  2014-03-22  9:41 ` martin rudalics
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Keith David Bershatsky @ 2014-03-22  1:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 17065

As to line 5944 of `window.el` -- i.e., `(delta (- new-width (window-total-width window))))` -- the usage of `window-total-width` prevents the user from precisely setting the `window-width` when using *a number* as part of the `alist` -- e.g., `'((window-width . 82))`.  This can be demonstrated by the following example:

(defun broken-example ()
  (interactive)
  (window--display-buffer
   ;; buffer
   (get-buffer-create "*test*")
   ;; window
   (split-window (selected-window) nil 'right)
   ;; type
   'window
   ;; alist
   '((window-width . 82))
   ;; dedicated
   t) 
  (message "Window Width:  %s" (window-width (get-buffer-window "*test*"))) )

As the Emacs team is well aware, the internal function `window--display-buffer` is used by no less than eleven (11) other functions within the `display-buffer` family of functions.  Any of those eleven (11) functions that rely upon `window--display-buffer` for setting the `window-width` with an `alist` in the form of *a number* -- e.g., `'((window-width . 82))` -- will suffer from this problem.

My proposed solution would be to replace `window-total-width` with `window-width`.  However, I must admit that I do not have sufficient knowledge / expertise to know under what circumstance the `window-total-width` would be used -- I only know that this is what causes the inability to properly set the `window-width` when using many of the `display-buffer` family of functions.

Here is a link to the thread that I opened on stackoverflow.com on this same issue:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22565759/window-display-buffer-how-to-precisely-set-window-width-at-time-of-creation/22572176#22572176

Thanks,

Keith

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* bug#17065: 24.3.50; Revise line 5944 of window.el to use `window-width`, instead of `window-total-width`.
  2014-03-22  1:32 bug#17065: 24.3.50; Revise line 5944 of window.el to use `window-width`, instead of `window-total-width` Keith David Bershatsky
@ 2014-03-22  9:41 ` martin rudalics
  2021-10-23  5:09   ` Stefan Kangas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2014-03-22  9:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 17065

 > (defun broken-example ()
 >    (interactive)
 >    (window--display-buffer
 >     ;; buffer
 >     (get-buffer-create "*test*")
 >     ;; window
 >     (split-window (selected-window) nil 'right)
 >     ;; type
 >     'window
 >     ;; alist
 >     '((window-width . 82))
 >     ;; dedicated
 >     t)
 >    (message "Window Width:  %s" (window-width (get-buffer-window "*test*"))) )

Conceptually, the `window-width' alist entry specifies the new total
width of the window, including fringes, scrollbars and vertical
dividers.  You mean that specifiying the number of text columns is more
intuitive?  I might agree, but unfortunately _all_ window resizing
functions intepret "width" in terms of the total width of a window.
Making an exception for this special case would only increase the
confusion.

The confusion has historical reasons and was not considered important,
likely so, because side-by-side windows are in use more frequently only
over the past years.  If, with emacs -Q, I do

(let ((window (split-window (selected-window) -20 'right)))
   (window-body-width window))

I get 16 text columns for the new window which is likely not what I
expected as someone using this function for the first time with an
explicit SIZE argument.

In any case, I will have to adjust some doc-strings and the Elisp
manual.  So far the only hint is the doc-string of `split-window-right'
which says

   Here, SIZE includes the width of the window's scroll bar; if there are
   no scroll bars, it includes the width of the divider column to the
   window's right, if any.

but I'm struggling with this issue ever since.

martin





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* bug#17065: 24.3.50; Revise line 5944 of window.el to use `window-width`, instead of `window-total-width`.
  2014-03-22  9:41 ` martin rudalics
@ 2021-10-23  5:09   ` Stefan Kangas
  2021-10-24  9:48     ` martin rudalics
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2021-10-23  5:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 17065

martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

>> (defun broken-example ()
>>    (interactive)
>>    (window--display-buffer
>>     ;; buffer
>>     (get-buffer-create "*test*")
>>     ;; window
>>     (split-window (selected-window) nil 'right)
>>     ;; type
>>     'window
>>     ;; alist
>>     '((window-width . 82))
>>     ;; dedicated
>>     t)
>>    (message "Window Width:  %s" (window-width (get-buffer-window "*test*"))) )
>
> Conceptually, the `window-width' alist entry specifies the new total
> width of the window, including fringes, scrollbars and vertical
> dividers.  You mean that specifiying the number of text columns is more
> intuitive?  I might agree, but unfortunately _all_ window resizing
> functions intepret "width" in terms of the total width of a window.
> Making an exception for this special case would only increase the
> confusion.
>
> The confusion has historical reasons and was not considered important,
> likely so, because side-by-side windows are in use more frequently only
> over the past years.  If, with emacs -Q, I do
>
> (let ((window (split-window (selected-window) -20 'right)))
>   (window-body-width window))
>
> I get 16 text columns for the new window which is likely not what I
> expected as someone using this function for the first time with an
> explicit SIZE argument.
>
> In any case, I will have to adjust some doc-strings and the Elisp
> manual.  So far the only hint is the doc-string of `split-window-right'
> which says
>
>   Here, SIZE includes the width of the window's scroll bar; if there are
>   no scroll bars, it includes the width of the divider column to the
>   window's right, if any.
>
> but I'm struggling with this issue ever since.

(That was 7.5 years ago.)

Is any of the above still an issue these days?





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* bug#17065: 24.3.50; Revise line 5944 of window.el to use `window-width`, instead of `window-total-width`.
  2021-10-23  5:09   ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2021-10-24  9:48     ` martin rudalics
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2021-10-24  9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: 17065

 > Is any of the above still an issue these days?

I'll fix this in way that one has to provide an alist entry as

(window-width . (body-columns . 40))

to get a window with a text area that is forty frame columns wide.

martin





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