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From: Mallchad Skeghyeph <ncaprisunfan@gmail.com>
To: 49261@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#49261: 28.0.50; File Locking Breaks Presumptuous Toolchains
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:38:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADrO7MinQS9rDZyfxfSZ7ma7hR_8gphU4ZCFWbc7J_yeqgSGbQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:36:19 +0100
Message-ID: <878s2tx564.fsf@gmail.com>
I've found for a little while now that a few default behaviors of GNU
emacs pollutes directories.
In the worst cases this can actually break programs, especially software
toolchains, where they assume a partition kind of file should be
pretend, and mistakenly tries to work with the file lock.
Another one of this files is backups and autosaves.

Ideally I would like the file lock and backup files to be placed in a
central directory,
rather than the same directory as the file in question.
After researching this problem I can see I'm not alone, and others have
felt this way for far longer than I have.

I have looked into seeing if I could change this manually,
for backups I can,
for file locks I have to dive into the source code, and after looking I
fear I would be knee deep in a very long rabbit hole without having
something more to work with.
I've not touched the source for this project before, only looked.

In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.29,
cairo version 1.17.4)
 of 2021-06-20 built on m-arch-asus
Repository revision: 01b0a909b5ca858a09484821cc866127652f4153
Repository branch: makepkg
Windowing system distributor 'System Description: Arch Linux

Configured using:
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Load-path shadows:
/home/mallchad/.emacs.d/elpa/cmake-mode-20210104.1831/cmake-mode hides
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/cmake-mode
/home/mallchad/.emacs.d/elpa/transient-20210525.1141/transient hides
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             reply	other threads:[~2021-06-28 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-28 17:38 Mallchad Skeghyeph [this message]
2021-06-30 13:00 ` bug#49261: 28.0.50; File Locking Breaks Presumptuous Toolchains Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-30 13:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 14:08     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]       ` <CADrO7Mje3DstmjxutZcpx33jWJwgE_z+hGfJc4aON1CYOpyJxA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-01 10:55         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-01 12:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 16:07     ` Michael Albinus
2021-06-30 16:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-01 11:38         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-30 19:31   ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-01 16:57   ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-01 18:31     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-02 11:06       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-02 12:32         ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-07 16:01         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 16:07           ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-07 16:13             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 16:40               ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-07 16:57                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 16:55           ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-07 16:59             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 17:36               ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-07 18:08                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 18:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 18:50                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 19:40                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 20:03                   ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-08  6:03                     ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-08 19:53                       ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-09  6:30                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-09  8:28                           ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-09 10:45                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-09 11:01                               ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-09 16:31                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-12 13:53                                   ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-12 14:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 14:37                                       ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-12 17:30                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 17:35                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-12 17:38                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 18:00                                               ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-12 18:25                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 18:46                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-12 19:04                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-13 17:53                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-13 16:30                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-13 16:31                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-13 16:41                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-13 17:59                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-13 19:00                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-13 19:09                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-13 19:36                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-13 17:55                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-13 19:05                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-16 16:15                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-17 14:06                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 20:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 20:09                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 20:15                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 20:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 20:18                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 20:29                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 20:37                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 20:55                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 21:04                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 22:22                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08  0:09                                   ` bug#49261: Segfault during loadup Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08  6:35                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08 12:51                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-11  8:36                                     ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-11 10:21                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-11 15:25                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12  7:16                                           ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-12 12:07                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 14:50                                               ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-12 14:56                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-07-12 15:54                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-13 23:12                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-14  7:42                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2021-07-14 22:04                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-14 22:10                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2021-07-14 12:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-14 22:24                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-15  6:13                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-11 11:32                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08  6:15                                   ` bug#49261: 28.0.50; File Locking Breaks Presumptuous Toolchains Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08  6:20                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08 12:44                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08 13:11                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08 13:13                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08  6:17                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08 12:42                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08 12:49                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08 13:16                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08 13:34                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08 16:47                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-10 16:25                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-10 17:04                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-10 17:15                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-10 17:20                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 18:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 18:17             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 18:20               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 18:42               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 18:58                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 19:03                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 19:20                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 18:50               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 19:22                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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