* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
@ 2020-07-27 19:21 Sineau Gh
2020-07-28 2:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Sineau Gh @ 2020-07-27 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 42562
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Hello everyone,
Although bug#41005 has been solved in buffers with column-number-mode
enabled, it still exists in places like minibuffer (I use Ivy) and dired
buffers. I have attached the bug report from emacs.
Thanks for all the beautiful work you have done with emacs 27,
Sina
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In GNU Emacs 27.0.91 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.5)
of 2020-07-27 built on debiantest
Repository revision: 73a2f5104331264656ac830c848912af9389a04b
Repository branch: emacs-27
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12004000
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user-error: The Org-roam database was created with a newer Org-roam version. [2 times]
Waiting for git... [2 times]
Restoring clock data
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‘org-roam-build-cache’ is an obsolete command (as of org-roam 1.0.0); use ‘org-roam-db-build-cache’ instead.
Quit
ivy-read: Command attempted to use minibuffer while in minibuffer
View mode: type C-h for help, h for commands, q to quit.
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-27 19:21 bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired Sineau Gh
@ 2020-07-28 2:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-29 15:50 ` Sineau Gh
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-07-28 2:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sineau Gh; +Cc: 42562
> From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:51:17 +0430
>
> Although bug#41005 has been solved in buffers with column-number-mode enabled, it still exists in places
> like minibuffer (I use Ivy) and dired buffers. I have attached the bug report from emacs.
Thanks, but we need a recipe to reproduce the problem, please.
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-28 2:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-07-29 15:50 ` Sineau Gh
2020-07-29 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Sineau Gh @ 2020-07-29 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 42562
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Sure. But I'm not sure what kind of a recipe you're looking for.
Persian/Arabic text on is disjointed like it was on buffers with
column-number-mode. I attached two screenshots too, if that helps.
Please tell me if there's any specific guidelines for submitting a recipe.
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:56, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:51:17 +0430
> >
> > Although bug#41005 has been solved in buffers with column-number-mode
> enabled, it still exists in places
> > like minibuffer (I use Ivy) and dired buffers. I have attached the bug
> report from emacs.
>
> Thanks, but we need a recipe to reproduce the problem, please.
>
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-29 15:50 ` Sineau Gh
@ 2020-07-29 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-30 12:57 ` Sineau Gh
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-07-29 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sineau Gh; +Cc: 42562
> From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:20:55 +0430
> Cc: 42562@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Sure. But I'm not sure what kind of a recipe you're looking for.
> Persian/Arabic text on is disjointed like it was on buffers with column-number-mode. I attached two
> screenshots too, if that helps.
> Please tell me if there's any specific guidelines for submitting a recipe.
You mean, just typing the text into *scratch* causes this?
If so, what system is this and how was Emacs configured? Can you show
the data collected by "M-x report-emacs-bug"?
If you need something other than just typing the text to reproduce the
problem, pleased tell what should one do to reproduce.
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-29 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-07-30 12:57 ` Sineau Gh
2020-07-30 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Sineau Gh @ 2020-07-30 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 42562
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The problem I originally reported was not concerned with typing text, but
text rendered in read-only buffers (ie. dired and minibuffer).
I have attached the report-emacs-bug too. Please note that I compiled emacs
27 myself on debian buster.
Also here's the bad news. Just now I realized that bug#41005 is not solved
yet. At certain combinations of characters, the ligatures are still
disjointed. Also I tried to change the font family, but that didn't help
either. This doesn't happen when I compiled emacs using --without-harfbuzz
option. I don't know if it helps but I can try to find if there's a pattern
to the combinations of characters I mentioned.
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 23:02, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:20:55 +0430
> > Cc: 42562@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > Sure. But I'm not sure what kind of a recipe you're looking for.
> > Persian/Arabic text on is disjointed like it was on buffers with
> column-number-mode. I attached two
> > screenshots too, if that helps.
> > Please tell me if there's any specific guidelines for submitting a
> recipe.
>
> You mean, just typing the text into *scratch* causes this?
>
> If so, what system is this and how was Emacs configured? Can you show
> the data collected by "M-x report-emacs-bug"?
>
> If you need something other than just typing the text to reproduce the
> problem, pleased tell what should one do to reproduce.
>
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-30 12:57 ` Sineau Gh
@ 2020-07-30 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-30 19:12 ` Sineau Gh
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-07-30 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sineau Gh; +Cc: 42562
> From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:27:36 +0430
> Cc: 42562@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> The problem I originally reported was not concerned with typing text, but text rendered in read-only buffers
> (ie. dired and minibuffer).
Then please describe the steps to reproduce this with one such
read-only buffer.
> Also here's the bad news. Just now I realized that bug#41005 is not solved yet. At certain combinations of
> characters, the ligatures are still disjointed. Also I tried to change the font family, but that didn't help either.
> This doesn't happen when I compiled emacs using --without-harfbuzz option. I don't know if it helps but I can
> try to find if there's a pattern to the combinations of characters I mentioned.
Here also we would need a recipe to reproduce the problem.
These problems are highly context dependent, and cannot be debugged
without a reproducer.
Thanks.
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-30 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-07-30 19:12 ` Sineau Gh
2020-07-30 20:05 ` Sineau Gh
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Sineau Gh @ 2020-07-30 19:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 42562
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> From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:27:36 +0430
> > Cc: 42562@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > The problem I originally reported was not concerned with typing text,
> but text rendered in read-only buffers
> > (ie. dired and minibuffer).
>
> Then please describe the steps to reproduce this with one such
> read-only buffer.
>
>
> Also here's the bad news. Just now I realized that bug#41005 is not
> solved yet. At certain combinations of
> > characters, the ligatures are still disjointed. Also I tried to change
> the font family, but that didn't help either.
> > This doesn't happen when I compiled emacs using --without-harfbuzz
> option. I don't know if it helps but I can
> > try to find if there's a pattern to the combinations of characters I
> mentioned.
>
> Here also we would need a recipe to reproduce the problem.
>
> These problems are highly context dependent, and cannot be debugged
> without a reproducer.
> Thanks.
>
>
Upon further investigation, I realized that in my config I have used a
combination of `default-frame-alist` and `set-fontset-font` that I forgot
about. So here's a reproduction I hope can be useful for you. First of all
the case is the same for both editable buffers and read-only ones so I'm
just using a file with following content:
تست
تحقیق
به
اصالت
شرتالکو
حقیق
حقیقت
سنت
تالکو
مدرن
مدرنیزاسیون
I have tested this in three cases. Please note they are basically the same
with some minor differences, but I mention them for completeness.
1- If I have not set a default font in my config, the text is rendered with
broken ligatures. And if I set the font using `M-x set-frame-font` then
everything is okay (even if I set it again to the default font used for
Persian / Arabic text).
2- If I use something like the following in my config files:
`(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "DejaVu Sans Mono-12"))`
on init the font is rendered broken. And if I set the font using `M-x
set-frame-font` then everything is okay. Now if I set it again to DejaVu
Sans Mono (the font I have used in my config file), it still shows broken
text. I have to first set it to another font and then set it again to
DejaVu so it renders correctly.
3- If I use the following line in my config:
`(set-frame-font "DejaVu Sans Mono-12" t t)`
on init the font is broken. And if I set the font using `M-x
set-frame-font` then everything is okay (like previous cases). But I can't
set it to DejaVu Sans Mono using `M-x set-frame-font` in any way. That
means I first tried to change the font to something different and then back
to DejaVu and still it didn't work.
I should note that I have tested this with various fonts and the result is
the same. Also I have tested this in Org and Fundamental modes and the
result is the same. Also I didn't add `set-fontset-font` to the mix but I
supposed it's not going to make a difference.
I hope this helps, and excuse me if it's not. Thanks for your patience.
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-30 19:12 ` Sineau Gh
@ 2020-07-30 20:05 ` Sineau Gh
2020-07-31 5:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Sineau Gh @ 2020-07-30 20:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 42562
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Hi again,
Here's some more info I have gathered. If I haven't set the default font in
my config file, `M-x set-frame-font` only works if there's already an open
buffer in the frame. And if I visit a new file, the ligatures are rendered
broken again, although the font is the same. So I have to change the font
again.
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 23:42, Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:27:36 +0430
>> > Cc: 42562@debbugs.gnu.org
>> >
>> > The problem I originally reported was not concerned with typing text,
>> but text rendered in read-only buffers
>> > (ie. dired and minibuffer).
>>
>> Then please describe the steps to reproduce this with one such
>> read-only buffer.
>>
>>
>
> > Also here's the bad news. Just now I realized that bug#41005 is not
>> solved yet. At certain combinations of
>> > characters, the ligatures are still disjointed. Also I tried to change
>> the font family, but that didn't help either.
>> > This doesn't happen when I compiled emacs using --without-harfbuzz
>> option. I don't know if it helps but I can
>> > try to find if there's a pattern to the combinations of characters I
>> mentioned.
>>
>> Here also we would need a recipe to reproduce the problem.
>>
>> These problems are highly context dependent, and cannot be debugged
>> without a reproducer.
>
>
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>
>>
> Upon further investigation, I realized that in my config I have used a
> combination of `default-frame-alist` and `set-fontset-font` that I forgot
> about. So here's a reproduction I hope can be useful for you. First of all
> the case is the same for both editable buffers and read-only ones so I'm
> just using a file with following content:
> تست
> تحقیق
> به
> اصالت
>
> شرتالکو
> حقیق
> حقیقت
> سنت
> تالکو
> مدرن
> مدرنیزاسیون
> I have tested this in three cases. Please note they are basically the same
> with some minor differences, but I mention them for completeness.
> 1- If I have not set a default font in my config, the text is rendered
> with broken ligatures. And if I set the font using `M-x set-frame-font`
> then everything is okay (even if I set it again to the default font used
> for Persian / Arabic text).
>
> 2- If I use something like the following in my config files:
> `(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "DejaVu Sans Mono-12"))`
> on init the font is rendered broken. And if I set the font using `M-x
> set-frame-font` then everything is okay. Now if I set it again to DejaVu
> Sans Mono (the font I have used in my config file), it still shows broken
> text. I have to first set it to another font and then set it again to
> DejaVu so it renders correctly.
>
> 3- If I use the following line in my config:
> `(set-frame-font "DejaVu Sans Mono-12" t t)`
> on init the font is broken. And if I set the font using `M-x
> set-frame-font` then everything is okay (like previous cases). But I can't
> set it to DejaVu Sans Mono using `M-x set-frame-font` in any way. That
> means I first tried to change the font to something different and then back
> to DejaVu and still it didn't work.
>
> I should note that I have tested this with various fonts and the result is
> the same. Also I have tested this in Org and Fundamental modes and the
> result is the same. Also I didn't add `set-fontset-font` to the mix but I
> supposed it's not going to make a difference.
>
> I hope this helps, and excuse me if it's not. Thanks for your patience.
>
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-30 20:05 ` Sineau Gh
@ 2020-07-31 5:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-31 5:38 ` Sineau Gh
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-07-31 5:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sineau Gh; +Cc: 42562
> From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 00:35:13 +0430
> Cc: 42562@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Here's some more info I have gathered. If I haven't set the default font in my config file, `M-x set-frame-font`
> only works if there's already an open buffer in the frame. And if I visit a new file, the ligatures are rendered
> broken again, although the font is the same. So I have to change the font again.
If the problem comes and goes as you change fonts, then the problem is
not with Emacs, it is with the fonts you are using: they should
support Arabic shaping. Emacs by default chooses suitable fonts for
the Arabic script, but if you force Emacs to use certain font, you can
disrupt the automatic font selection algorithm and choose a font that
doesn't support Arabic shaping.
The problems reported earlier existed with any font, and didn't
disappear when a font was changed.
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-31 5:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-07-31 5:38 ` Sineau Gh
2020-07-31 6:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Sineau Gh @ 2020-07-31 5:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 42562
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This can't be the problem, because even if I don't set a font on my
config, the font which selected automatically by emacs is also rendered
disjointed. But to make sure this isn't the case, I removed two
compatible fonts that are automatically selected (namely, Vazir and
Noto, both of which have great Persian support). The default font is now
DejaVu
Mono, which is again rendered disjointed.
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 09:44, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 00:35:13 +0430
> > Cc: 42562@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > Here's some more info I have gathered. If I haven't set the default font
> in my config file, `M-x set-frame-font`
> > only works if there's already an open buffer in the frame. And if I
> visit a new file, the ligatures are rendered
> > broken again, although the font is the same. So I have to change the
> font again.
>
> If the problem comes and goes as you change fonts, then the problem is
> not with Emacs, it is with the fonts you are using: they should
> support Arabic shaping. Emacs by default chooses suitable fonts for
> the Arabic script, but if you force Emacs to use certain font, you can
> disrupt the automatic font selection algorithm and choose a font that
> doesn't support Arabic shaping.
>
> The problems reported earlier existed with any font, and didn't
> disappear when a font was changed.
>
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-31 5:38 ` Sineau Gh
@ 2020-07-31 6:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-31 6:32 ` Sineau Gh
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-07-31 6:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sineau Gh; +Cc: 42562
> From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 10:08:43 +0430
> Cc: 42562@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> This can't be the problem, because even if I don't set a font on my
> config, the font which selected automatically by emacs is also rendered
> disjointed. But to make sure this isn't the case, I removed two
> compatible fonts that are automatically selected (namely, Vazir and
> Noto, both of which have great Persian support). The default font is now DejaVu
> Mono, which is again rendered disjointed.
Is this in "emacs -Q"? If so, then this is contrary to what everyone
else sees with Emacs 27, so there must be some other factor at work
here.
In any case, I repeat the previous request: please provide a recipe
for reproducing the problem, starting with "emacs -Q". For example,
if this happens in Dired, then the recipe could be something like
this:
. create a directory with files named .... (here show the exact
names of the file names to create)
. start Dired on that directory
. observe that file names ... (state the problematic file names) are
rendered incorrectly (here please attach a screenshot of the
incorrect display, and another one of how these file names should
look when rendered correctly)
If some other non-default setting should be used, such as
column-number-mode or something else, please include those settings in
the recipe.
Such a recipe is required to debug the problem. Based on previous
experience, once a recipe is provided, the solution is found very
quickly, but before the recipe is provided there's almost no progress
in investigating the problem.
Thanks.
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-31 6:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-07-31 6:32 ` Sineau Gh
2020-07-31 12:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Sineau Gh @ 2020-07-31 6:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 42562
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Oh sorry for the trouble. I haven't tested it with emacs -Q (rookie
here). In that case dired and editable buffers are working as
expected. Here's a reproduction recipe for *Completion Buffer* and
modeline:
- create a folder with following files:
تحقیق
تست
مدرن.txt
تحقیق.org <http://xn--pgbg7da30e.org>
- visit a file using C-x C-f.
- use TAB for *Completion Buffer*.
- first character of all file names are disjointed.
- type ت to filter the filenames, now the second characters are
disjointed.
- now open one of the files. in modeline first and last characters of
the filename are disjointed.
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 10:36, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 10:08:43 +0430
> > Cc: 42562@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > This can't be the problem, because even if I don't set a font on my
> > config, the font which selected automatically by emacs is also rendered
> > disjointed. But to make sure this isn't the case, I removed two
> > compatible fonts that are automatically selected (namely, Vazir and
> > Noto, both of which have great Persian support). The default font is now
> DejaVu
> > Mono, which is again rendered disjointed.
>
> Is this in "emacs -Q"? If so, then this is contrary to what everyone
> else sees with Emacs 27, so there must be some other factor at work
> here.
>
> In any case, I repeat the previous request: please provide a recipe
> for reproducing the problem, starting with "emacs -Q". For example,
> if this happens in Dired, then the recipe could be something like
> this:
>
> . create a directory with files named .... (here show the exact
> names of the file names to create)
> . start Dired on that directory
> . observe that file names ... (state the problematic file names) are
> rendered incorrectly (here please attach a screenshot of the
> incorrect display, and another one of how these file names should
> look when rendered correctly)
>
> If some other non-default setting should be used, such as
> column-number-mode or something else, please include those settings in
> the recipe.
>
> Such a recipe is required to debug the problem. Based on previous
> experience, once a recipe is provided, the solution is found very
> quickly, but before the recipe is provided there's almost no progress
> in investigating the problem.
>
> Thanks.
>
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-31 6:32 ` Sineau Gh
@ 2020-07-31 12:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-31 13:32 ` Sineau Gh
2022-03-22 15:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-07-31 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sineau Gh; +Cc: 42562
> From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:02:44 +0430
> Cc: 42562@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> تحقیق
> تست
> مدرن.txt
> تحقیق.org
> - visit a file using C-x C-f.
> - use TAB for *Completion Buffer*.
> - first character of all file names are disjointed.
> - type ت to filter the filenames, now the second characters are
> disjointed.
> - now open one of the files. in modeline first and last characters of
> the filename are disjointed.
Thanks. Now everything is clear: this is due to the basic limitation
of how Emacs displays text with different faces: we render each run of
character in the same face separately from characters in a different
face. So if the face changes in the middle of a word, we render the
two parts of the word separately, and that breaks Arabic shaping.
Fixing this would need significant changes in the low-level code that
handles text layout, which is one of the basics of the current display
engine. Patches are welcome.
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-31 12:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-07-31 13:32 ` Sineau Gh
2020-07-31 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-22 15:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Sineau Gh @ 2020-07-31 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 42562
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Thank you for clearing things up Eli. You are correct. As I remember it
was like this before emacs 27 too.
I have one more question. You have hinted in a previous email that
setting the font for emacs may cause it to use a font that doesn't
support arabic shaping. Are you suggesting that I can't use commands
like `set-frame-font` or `default-aframe-list` like before? Or is
there something else in my config that messes up the ligatures?
Because my config is working fine with previous versions of emacs and
also emacs 27 compiled "without-harfbuzz".ses up the ligatures? Because my
config is working fine with previous versions of emacs and also emacs
27 compiled "without-harfbuzz".
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 17:26, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:02:44 +0430
> > Cc: 42562@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
>
> > تحقیق
> > تست
> > مدرن.txt
> > تحقیق.org <http://xn--pgbg7da30e.org>
>
> > - visit a file using C-x C-f.
> > - use TAB for *Completion Buffer*.
> > - first character of all file names are disjointed.
> > - type ت to filter the filenames, now the second characters are
> > disjointed.
> > - now open one of the files. in modeline first and last characters of
> > the filename are disjointed.
>
> Thanks. Now everything is clear: this is due to the basic limitation
> of how Emacs displays text with different faces: we render each run of
> character in the same face separately from characters in a different
> face. So if the face changes in the middle of a word, we render the
> two parts of the word separately, and that breaks Arabic shaping.
>
> Fixing this would need significant changes in the low-level code that
> handles text layout, which is one of the basics of the current display
> engine. Patches are welcome.
>
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-31 13:32 ` Sineau Gh
@ 2020-07-31 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-07-31 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sineau Gh; +Cc: 42562
> From: Sineau Gh <sineaugh@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 18:02:19 +0430
> Cc: 42562@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> I have one more question. You have hinted in a previous email that
> setting the font for emacs may cause it to use a font that doesn't
> support arabic shaping. Are you suggesting that I can't use commands
> like `set-frame-font` or `default-aframe-list` like before? Or is
> there something else in my config that messes up the ligatures?
You can use those commands, but be careful which fonts you name there.
Especially if you use set-fontset-font for Persian characters.
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* bug#42562: Problem with rendering Persian text still exists in minibuffer and dired
2020-07-31 12:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-31 13:32 ` Sineau Gh
@ 2022-03-22 15:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-03-22 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Sineau Gh, 42562
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> Thanks. Now everything is clear: this is due to the basic limitation
> of how Emacs displays text with different faces: we render each run of
> character in the same face separately from characters in a different
> face. So if the face changes in the middle of a word, we render the
> two parts of the word separately, and that breaks Arabic shaping.
If I remember correctly, using font shaping over stretches of different
fonts has been discussed quite a bit before, and there's other bug
reports open on this issue (even if I can't find them now), so I'm
closing this one.
--
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