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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>,
	Christopher Wellons <wellons@nullprogram.com>
Cc: 24494@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24494: 24.4; Trailing comma in emacs-module.h
Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2017 15:28:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAArVCkRrqfTw00Tq6AYqAvhJ92Dozj8-qwJqsEoDWnuei-LjhQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <g47f743hdi.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>

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Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> schrieb am Mo., 12. Dez. 2016 um 23:37 Uhr:

> Christopher Wellons wrote:
>
> > Building Emacs itself now requires a C99 compiler, but this requirement
> > needn't extend to dynamic modules. Removing a trailing comma (see patch)
> > makes emacs-module.h C89/C90 compatible, allowing modules to be built
> > using older C compilers. Trailing commas weren't permitted until C99.
>
> Thanks for the report. I don't have an opinion, but some comments:
>
> 1) I think it's going to be hard for developers to remember to use
> different conventions for emacs-module.h, so C99-isms are likely to
> creep back in.
>

emacs-module.h is used differently than other parts of the source code, so
different conventions apply: It should be more compatible with various
compilers, it has to be compatible with C++, all names have to start with
"emacs_", it can't depend on any headers not in the standard library, etc.
If it's hard to remember these requirements, maybe we should check for
them? E.g. add a unit test that including emacs-module.h always works, even
with '-pedantic-errors -Weverything -Werror -std=c++98'.
Aside: technically emacs-module.h already depends on C99/C++11, via
intmax_t and bool. However, these types are apparently often available even
in C++98/C89 mode.


>
> 2) Are people really likely to be building Emacs modules with set-ups
> that can't build Emacs itself?
>

Why not? Modules could be much simpler than Emacs, and module authors might
legitimately want to support older compilers.


>
> 3) It seems this feature was supported by gcc since 0.9? Ie, forever?
> https://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/c99status.html
>
> Hopefully someone who does have an opinion will quickly either fix or
> wontfix this issue. :)
>

I've independently just pushed the same change. I think not breaking
pre-C++11 builds (which probably still see signifcant use) is important
enough.

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-02 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-21 15:22 bug#24494: 24.4; Trailing comma in emacs-module.h Christopher Wellons
2016-12-12 22:35 ` Glenn Morris
2017-07-01 20:50   ` npostavs
2017-07-02 15:28   ` Philipp Stephani [this message]

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