From: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>,
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
Andrew Goh <andrewgoh95@yahoo.com.sg>,
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
41403@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#41403: A more user-friendly version of GNU Emacs
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 20:47:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BDF60D3E-7866-4E3F-8E7F-A7DB436D2021@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pmt0wkur.fsf@igel.home>
22 sep. 2021 kl. 20.01 skrev Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>:
> That's exctly the problem. What Apple calls the Option key, is the Alt
> key on ordinary keyboards.
But they never switched the keys that you claimed they did.
Apple have their own keyboard design tradition and while they later reconciled their layout with that from IBM, they didn't somehow take IBM's keyboard and make arbitrary changes for nefarious reasons.
There isn't necessarily a bijection between Mac and PC keys. Option mostly corresponds to today's AltGr (for input of more characters) but is also used to modify function keys and mouse clicks. Command was originally designed as a more principled variant of the conventional Control key (ie, for function keystrokes), but better located and without the historical TTY control code baggage. Later on Control was added to Mac keyboards as well for use in terminal emulators and the like, and is today just another modifier.
From your point of view you may wish that company this-and-that would have made different decisions and so do I (most definitely), but history is what it is.
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2021-09-22 18:01 ` bug#41403: A more user-friendly version of GNU Emacs Andreas Schwab
2021-09-22 18:47 ` Mattias Engdegård [this message]
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2020-05-19 13:08 ` Andrew Goh via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-05-19 14:43 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-19 22:48 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-05-19 23:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-17 16:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-17 20:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-17 22:04 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-18 13:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-21 20:13 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-21 20:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-21 23:07 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-21 23:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-22 0:30 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-22 21:24 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-22 21:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-23 6:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-22 14:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-22 15:57 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-09-22 20:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-22 22:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-22 21:42 ` Alan Third
2021-09-22 22:28 ` Stefan Kangas
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2020-05-20 0:55 ` Stefan Kangas
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2020-05-20 13:37 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-17 18:44 ` Eduardo Ochs
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