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* bug#57483: 28.1.91; expand hl-line-mode to highlight-line-mode for readability
@ 2022-08-30  7:23 Van Ly
  2022-08-30 10:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Van Ly @ 2022-08-30  7:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 57483

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The sequence "hl" is easy to type but recalling its function after not
using  it a  while  takes  effort.  Seeing  "Hl-Line  mode enabled  in
current buffer" also takes effort to read.

In the spirit of "display-line-numbers-mode" can "highlight-line-mode"
be the full expansion for feedback and the expansion to "hl"?

Steps to reproduce
  . start "emacs -Q"
  . type three lines of "q"
  . on the middle line type "M-x hl" and TAB to use the completion

An improvement from my point of view
  . on the middle line type "hl" and TAB to use the completion
  . the completion expands what was "hl-line-mode" to "highlight-line-mode"

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In GNU Emacs 28.1.91 (build 1, aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.24, cairo version 1.16.0)
 of 2022-08-08 built on charlie
Repository revision: 059ab47a0664012b4d8cf8cc36b7d8a28b80c614
Repository branch: main
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12011000
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY
INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS
X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: en_AU.UTF-8
  value of $LANG: en_AU.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  hl-line-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs
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eieio-loaddefs password-cache json map text-property-search time-date
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mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader cl-loaddefs
cl-lib sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils
hl-line iso-transl tooltip eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook
vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win
term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe
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jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice button
loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay
sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget
hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2
dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo
move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 52322 4205)
 (symbols 48 6641 1)
 (strings 32 19274 1434)
 (string-bytes 1 628769)
 (vectors 16 13991)
 (vector-slots 8 186836 8864)
 (floats 8 22 36)
 (intervals 56 231 0)
 (buffers 992 11))

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* bug#57483: 28.1.91; expand hl-line-mode to highlight-line-mode for readability
  2022-08-30  7:23 bug#57483: 28.1.91; expand hl-line-mode to highlight-line-mode for readability Van Ly
@ 2022-08-30 10:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-08-30 11:40   ` Van Ly
  2022-08-30 12:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-08-30 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Van Ly; +Cc: 57483

Van Ly <van.ly@sdf.org> writes:

> The sequence "hl" is easy to type but recalling its function after not
> using  it a  while  takes  effort.  Seeing  "Hl-Line  mode enabled  in
> current buffer" also takes effort to read.
>
> In the spirit of "display-line-numbers-mode" can "highlight-line-mode"
> be the full expansion for feedback and the expansion to "hl"?
>
> Steps to reproduce
>  . start "emacs -Q"
>  . type three lines of "q"
>  . on the middle line type "M-x hl" and TAB to use the completion
>
> An improvement from my point of view
>  . on the middle line type "hl" and TAB to use the completion
>  . the completion expands what was "hl-line-mode" to "highlight-line-mode"

We could consider renaming hl-line-mode to highlight-line-mode, I guess?
Anybody have any opinions?

But I don't think completing hl to highlight-line-mode would make much
sense, even if it was possible, because nobody would be typing `M-x hl
TAB' in the first place without knowing that the mode was called
`hl-line-mode'.






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* bug#57483: 28.1.91; expand hl-line-mode to highlight-line-mode for readability
  2022-08-30 10:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-08-30 11:40   ` Van Ly
  2022-08-30 12:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Van Ly @ 2022-08-30 11:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 57483

On Tue, 30 Aug 2022, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:

>
> But I don't think completing hl to highlight-line-mode would make much
> sense, even if it was possible, because nobody would be typing `M-x hl
> TAB' in the first place without knowing that the mode was called
> `hl-line-mode'.
>

When I have my muddled together emacs configuration not running 
from "emacs -Q" the following shows


  M-x hl
  hl-line-mode
  hi-lock-mode
  holiday-list
  ...

true, I don't use "M-x hl TAB" but "M-x hl C-j" to take the option 
at top of the listing.  I think more sense is gained from

  M-x hl
  highlight-line-mode
  ...






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* bug#57483: 28.1.91; expand hl-line-mode to highlight-line-mode for readability
  2022-08-30 10:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-08-30 11:40   ` Van Ly
@ 2022-08-30 12:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2022-08-30 12:22     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-08-30 13:35     ` Van Ly
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2022-08-30 12:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 57483, van.ly

> Cc: 57483@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 12:35:24 +0200
> 
> We could consider renaming hl-line-mode to highlight-line-mode, I guess?
> Anybody have any opinions?

We cannot rename such a veteran mode.  But we can add an alias.





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* bug#57483: 28.1.91; expand hl-line-mode to highlight-line-mode for readability
  2022-08-30 12:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2022-08-30 12:22     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-08-30 12:41       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-08-30 12:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
  2022-08-30 13:35     ` Van Ly
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-08-30 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 57483, van.ly

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> We cannot rename such a veteran mode.  But we can add an alias.

I was thinking of renaming it and adding hl-line-mode as an alias.





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* bug#57483: 28.1.91; expand hl-line-mode to highlight-line-mode for readability
  2022-08-30 12:22     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-08-30 12:41       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-08-30 12:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-08-30 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 57483, van.ly

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I was thinking of renaming it and adding hl-line-mode as an alias.

On the other hand, there's a gazillion user options and stuff called
`hl-*', so perhaps doing it the other way around makes more sense.






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* bug#57483: 28.1.91; expand hl-line-mode to highlight-line-mode for readability
  2022-08-30 12:22     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-08-30 12:41       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-08-30 12:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2022-08-30 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 57483, van.ly

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: van.ly@sdf.org,  57483@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 14:22:14 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > We cannot rename such a veteran mode.  But we can add an alias.
> 
> I was thinking of renaming it and adding hl-line-mode as an alias.

That's okay, of course.





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* bug#57483: 28.1.91; expand hl-line-mode to highlight-line-mode for readability
  2022-08-30 12:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2022-08-30 12:22     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-08-30 13:35     ` Van Ly
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Van Ly @ 2022-08-30 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 57483, Lars Ingebrigtsen

On Tue, 30 Aug 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> Cc: 57483@debbugs.gnu.org
>> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 12:35:24 +0200
>>
>> We could consider renaming hl-line-mode to highlight-line-mode, I guess?
>> Anybody have any opinions?
>
> We cannot rename such a veteran mode.  But we can add an alias.
>

Also, with emacs  customized the way that works for  me, the following
happens to "M-x hl TAB"

   M-x hl TAB
   [listing changes unexpectedly]
   M-x h-l
   flush-lines
   LaTeX-math-lg
   LaTeX-math-ll
   ...

What triggered me to file this bug is this chicken and egg problem.

I want to  activate "highlight line" mode but my  short term memory at
the finger  tips has  forgotten "hl"  at the  "M-x hl  C-j".  So  I go
typing "M-x  highlight" but  the generated  listing doesn't  fetch the
unavailable  "hl-line-mode"  which  I  very  much  prefer  to  see  as
"highlight-line-mode".





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