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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: "16196@debbugs.gnu.org" <16196@debbugs.gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#16196: 24.3.50; Disable ding when scrolling
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 10:17:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <993d78c4-f434-f334-8dfe-3c5ca3a07874@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkm=GaGd1N_Kr5EpJC21D4trwkt-+XmqOwDRhVhy8XBzZBQ@mail.gmail.com>

 >>   > To make it easier to review, I've also included a git diff
 >>   > ignoring whitespace changes.
 >>
 >> This one doesn't apply here.
 >
 > Sorry, I should've been more clear.  This is the same as the patch but
 > without the whitespace changes.  Please try applying the patch
 > instead.  Thanks.

I obviously did that (otherwise I would have complained about the
patch in the first place) ;-)

 >> AFAIAC it's an improvement.  But personally, I'd drop the message as
 >> well.  Does anyone really need it?
 >
 > I'm personally prone to agree with you, but the reasoning in the previous
 > discussion in this thread seems to be that we do want it.  Or at least
 > something similar.
 >
 > Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
 >
 >> the general design of Emacs is that
 >> we strive to make every command perform *something*, so when the user's
 >> request ends up doing nothing, we signal an error to make it clear that
 >> Emacs did obey the request.  Otherwise the lack of feedback can make the
 >> user feel like Emacs is unresponsive.
 >
 > And later:
 >
 >> I'd rather keep some kind of feedback.  Maybe a `message'?
 >
 > Personally, I think the scrolling itself is enough feedback.  It
 > either scrolls or it doesn't.  That's what happens in many other
 > programs, for example in Firefox.  And scroll-bar-mode is enabled by
 > default.
 >
 > But I think my opinion on this carries less weight than Stefan
 > Monnier's.  :-)

My current *Messages* buffer is listed below.  I never look at it
because it just doesn't make sense.

Thanks anyway for your efforts to remove the beeps, martin


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      reply	other threads:[~2019-08-11  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-20  6:08 bug#16196: 24.3.50; Disable ding when scrolling Jan Djärv
2013-12-20  8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 10:26   ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:32     ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 17:52         ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 18:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 18:48             ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 20:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-23  2:46                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-23 10:44                   ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-03 22:57                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-03 23:46                       ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-04  0:03                         ` Drew Adams
2014-01-04  5:07                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  9:40                           ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-04 13:43                           ` martin rudalics
2014-01-04 20:40                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  7:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04  9:36                           ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-09  7:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-09  8:57   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-08-10 18:07     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-11 14:28       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-08-12  0:52         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 13:26           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 13:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-30 14:03             ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-30 14:11               ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-30 14:19                 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 21:51                   ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-04 16:11                     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-09  9:00   ` martin rudalics
2019-08-10 18:23     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-11  8:17       ` martin rudalics [this message]

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