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From: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "16196@debbugs.gnu.org" <16196@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#16196: 24.3.50; Disable ding when scrolling
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 11:32:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <29609060-51EE-4D80-9D96-90CABE6A6844@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D06C7638-49D0-43A0-8DF4-1DF6860596D8@swipnet.se>

Hello. 

> 20 dec 2013 kl. 11:26 skrev Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>:
> 
> Hello. 
> 
> 20 dec 2013 kl. 09:56 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
> 
>>> From: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
>>> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 07:08:37 +0100
>>> 
>>> I think Emacs should by default not beep at all when scrolling and no movement can be done.
>> 
>> This could be hard to implement.  Most scrolling commands just examine
>> the text around point, and set the window-start for the next
>> redisplay, so they don't really know when no movement can be done.
>> Thus, the exact conditions for bitching "End of buffer" are not at all
>> what you could imagine, and not easily correlated with the situation
>> you describe.  For example, the next-line and previous-line commands
>> signal these errors when they find they are unable to scroll text,
>> something that might be utterly unrelated to hitting end of buffer.
> 
> I have in my .emacs:
> 
> (setq mwheel-scroll-up-function
>     '(lambda (amt)
>        (if (< (window-end) (point-max)) (scroll-up amt))))
> 
> (setq mwheel-scroll-down-function
>     '(lambda (amt)
>        (if (> (window-start) (point-min)) (scroll-down amt))))
> 
> This does what this bug report talks about, except in the horizontal direction. So it can't be that hard. 

On the C level I think it is a matter of not calling xsignal0 in window_scroll_(line|pixel)_based in window.c. 

    Jan D. 

> 
>> 
>>> It should just ignore it and do nothing, like most applications do.
>> 
>> Well, "do nothing" is something Emacs cannot easily do in this case,
>> since the part that "does nothing" is redisplay, which has no idea
>> about the scrolling command that just ran.
>> 
>>> At the very least there should be an option to turn off scrollrelated beeping.
>> 
>> This should be much easier to implement, although you may be surprised
>> to see in how many places we throw that particular error.  (Hint: grep
>> the Lisp sources for "'end-of-file".)
>> 
>> Patches are welcome, as usual.





  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-20 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-20  6:08 bug#16196: 24.3.50; Disable ding when scrolling Jan Djärv
2013-12-20  8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 10:26   ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:32     ` Jan Djärv [this message]
2013-12-20 10:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 17:52         ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 18:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 18:48             ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 20:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-23  2:46                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-23 10:44                   ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-03 22:57                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-03 23:46                       ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-04  0:03                         ` Drew Adams
2014-01-04  5:07                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  9:40                           ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-04 13:43                           ` martin rudalics
2014-01-04 20:40                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  7:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04  9:36                           ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-09  7:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-09  8:57   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-08-10 18:07     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-11 14:28       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-08-12  0:52         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 13:26           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 13:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-30 14:03             ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-30 14:11               ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-30 14:19                 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 21:51                   ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-04 16:11                     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-09  9:00   ` martin rudalics
2019-08-10 18:23     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-11  8:17       ` martin rudalics

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