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From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: 51335@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#51335: 29.0.50; Use warnings facility for reporting Gnus errors
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2021 14:17:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zgqh2dce.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sfwtxa6w.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> I will suppress the urge
>> to apologize for my *Group* buffer appearance, I'm in the middle of some
>> home improvements.
>
> 😋
>
>> Lastly, the messages coming from Gnus are very much set up for regular
>> message display, in particular the "<message>...done" pattern, which
>> doesn't work with the warnings setup.
>
> I'm having a bit of a problem with imagining the use case for that bit.
> I don't think any users will ever want to look at a log/warning buffer
> containing "Sorting threads..." etc -- it looks like a debugging tool
> that's should be totally internal and not involve *Warnings* at all.
>
> I don't think any other packages do anything like that with their
> logging facilities.

Well that's mostly because I've turned `gnus-verbose' up to 10, and also
introduced an option `gnus-log-all-messages' which doubles
`gnus-message' output to the logging buffer. That is nil by default, but
I've set it to t here, so this is absolutely as loud as the logging
could possibly be.

If we adopt something like this, I think it would be worth doing a bit
of shuffling regarding which messages are sent through `gnus-error' and
which through `gnus-message'. Probably I'd introduce a `gnus-log'
function, have `gnus-error' call that, and replace some `gnus-message'
calls with `gnus-log'.

Ideally there would be no reason to have the option
`gnus-log-all-messages' at all, and the "Sorting threads..." messages
would only ever be messages.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-06 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-22 17:04 bug#51335: 29.0.50; Use warnings facility for reporting Gnus errors Eric Abrahamsen
2021-10-24 18:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 18:28   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-10-25 18:33     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-10-27 13:01     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-06  0:03       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-11-06 18:18         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-06 21:17 ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
2021-11-07 13:40   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-04 20:42     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-04 22:13       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-13 14:45         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-11-07 20:53           ` Eric Abrahamsen

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