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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com>
Cc: 65491@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#65491: [PATCH] Improve performance allocating vectors
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 14:54:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y1hxj1kw.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA48AA01-4396-48B6-BA80-1A24EF492ED1@gmail.com>

Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com> writes:

> First of all, let's leave bignums out of this entirely. They are not relevant here.
>
> Second, please do not motivate any perceived performance problem from
> benchmarks found on the internet, especially anything derived from the
> Gabriel benchmarks. This includes the benchmarks in ELPA.

> That said, vectorlike object allocation in general is definitely
> relevant and can certainly be improved but I'm not persuaded by the
> proposed patch. Please do not apply it right away.

I have no problem with this and I have supplied more relevant benchmarks
with Org and with composition (as suggested by Eli).

Of course, the problem is not with bignums - it just revealed the
inefficiency with array iteration I tried to address. If more can be
done with vectorlike allocation, it will be even better.

> However, the important part is not the patch but the problem it highlights, and here there is evidently plenty to do. 
>
> For example:
>
> - isn't vector_free_list twice as big as it needs to be?

AFAIR, trying to reduce this array size was the first thing I tried.
When I touched VECTOR_BLOCK_SIZE, I got segfaults and compilation
failures. (Do note that I am missing understanding about the motivation
behind this constant).

> - to what extent are we duplicating the work done by modern libc allocators (very generously including glibc here)?
> - next_vector is a dangerously unstable concoction of C undefined behaviour

Isn't vector_free_list following the pattern used across alloc.c? For
example, Fcons uses a similar idea with holding pre-allocated memory as
a chain of pointers.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-26 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-24  9:59 bug#65491: [PATCH] Improve performance allocating vectors Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26  7:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-26  7:27   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26  7:31     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-26  7:51       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26  8:07         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26  9:01         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-26  7:47     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 12:01 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-26 14:54   ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-08-26 14:55   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-27  9:54     ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-09-16 14:58     ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-09-16 16:12       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-16 16:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-16 16:32           ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-09-16 16:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-16 17:03               ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-09-16 17:11                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17  3:02                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-17 17:02                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18  2:19                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18  2:27                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18  3:08                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18  4:10                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-16 16:54             ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-09-16 17:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-16 17:22                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-09-16 18:19                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-16 19:04                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-09-16 19:46                 ` Paul Eggert
2023-09-17  5:18                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17 15:22                     ` Paul Eggert
2023-09-17 16:15                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17 16:37                         ` Paul Eggert
2023-09-17 16:44                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-18 16:10                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-09-18 17:13                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-19 13:28                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-09-19 14:04                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-19 14:05                                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-09-25 16:06       ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-27 16:21 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-28 10:14   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28 16:32     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-28 12:47   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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