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From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
To: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
Cc: 21072@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
Subject: bug#21072: Brave new mark-defun (and a testing tool)
Date: Wed, 03 May 2017 10:43:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wp9ynxey.fsf@drachen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vapiwlvr.fsf@jane> (Marcin Borkowski's message of "Wed, 03 May 2017 07:27:20 +0200")

Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:

> Thanks for your answer, but I'm still not sure.  Are the tables below
> right?
>
> Running:
>
> | form                            | evaled? | compiled? |
> |---------------------------------+---------+-----------|
> | (defun ...)                     | yes     | no        |
> | (eval-when-compile (defun ...)) | no      | no        |
> | (eval-and-compile (defun ...))  | yes     | no        |
> | (defmacro ...)                  | yes     | no        |

I find this table very confusing.  Does the second column really mean
"Is the form evaluated when it is compiled when it is not compiled"?

I suggest to have a look at the definitions.  AFAICT the semantics of
`eval-when-compile' and `eval-and-compile' are defined by (1) their
regular definitions in byte-run.el and (2) the specifications in the
definition of `byte-compile-initial-macro-environment'.  Even if you
don't know much details, it all should be human readable.


Regards,

Michael.






  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-03  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <m2bmu7lwal.fsf@newartisans.com>
     [not found]   ` <87mvdriuss.fsf@mbork.pl>
     [not found]     ` <m2k28v3xp2.fsf@newartisans.com>
     [not found]       ` <87bmu6icea.fsf@mbork.pl>
     [not found]         ` <c04b44ac-8bd4-ecfa-5d2f-492135a067ad@yandex.ru>
     [not found]           ` <m2d1el29yr.fsf@newartisans.com>
2017-02-14 10:45             ` bug#21072: Brave new mark-defun (and a testing tool) Marcin Borkowski
2017-02-14 13:02               ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found]               ` <52e67f43-edcf-09e3-5fd6-6079763fd234@yandex.ru>
2017-02-14 19:06                 ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                 ` <87tw7wh9sf.fsf@mbork.pl>
     [not found]                   ` <jwvr330wp9a.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>
2017-02-15  6:45                     ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                     ` <87k28sdka6.fsf@jane>
2017-02-15  7:56                       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                       ` <jwvh93vopsr.fsf-monnier+Inbox@gnu.org>
2017-02-15 19:18                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-02-15 19:27                           ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                           ` <jwvbmu3p88m.fsf-monnier+Inbox@gnu.org>
2017-02-16  4:40                             ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                             ` <87bmu2eoji.fsf@jane>
2017-02-16 13:22                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-17  8:54                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-03-07 16:46                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-07 16:50                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-03-07 16:53                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-29  6:30                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                                     ` <83innlgh95.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-03-29  6:30                                       ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                                   ` <83o9xdghmc.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-03-29  6:34                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                                     ` <87o9wkoald.fsf@jane>
2017-03-31 11:18                                       ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-02 20:22                                         ` Glenn Morris
2017-04-07  8:26                                           ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-02 22:56                                         ` npostavs
     [not found]                                         ` <87k272wh8x.fsf@users.sourceforge.net>
2017-04-07  8:25                                           ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-07 14:41                                             ` Noam Postavsky
2017-04-18 12:35                                               ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-18 14:04                                                 ` Drew Adams
2017-04-18 14:38                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-19  0:04                                                 ` npostavs
2017-04-19  0:35                                                   ` John Mastro
2017-04-20  0:47                                                     ` John Mastro
2017-04-20 12:11                                                       ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-21 12:24                                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-21 12:29                                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-22 18:05                                                     ` npostavs
2017-04-24 12:17                                                       ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-24 12:52                                                         ` npostavs
2017-04-25 11:43                                                           ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-25 12:13                                                             ` npostavs
2017-04-25 20:49                                                             ` Noam Postavsky
2017-04-27 16:43                                                           ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-27 21:48                                                             ` Noam Postavsky
2017-04-30 14:49                                                               ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-30 15:19                                                               ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-30 16:10                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-30 18:04                                                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2017-04-30 18:46                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-30 19:18                                                                       ` npostavs
2017-04-30 20:09                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-30 21:41                                                                           ` npostavs
2017-04-30 22:03                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-30 22:21                                                                               ` npostavs
2017-05-03 15:20                                                                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-05-03  5:27                                                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-05-03  8:43                                                                     ` Michael Heerdegen [this message]
2017-05-03 12:44                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-09 12:39                                                               ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-05-10  2:53                                                                 ` npostavs
2017-05-10  3:15                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-10  3:31                                                                     ` npostavs
2017-05-10 16:31                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-12  9:42                                                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-05-12 20:32                                                                     ` npostavs
2017-05-14  5:13                                                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-05-15  0:17                                                                       ` Glenn Morris
2017-05-16 22:38                                                                         ` npostavs
2017-05-20 22:30                                                                           ` npostavs

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