* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
@ 2020-02-05 15:10 Pieter van Oostrum
2020-02-08 9:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <handler.39436.D39436.158115493214005.notifdone@debbugs.gnu.org>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Pieter van Oostrum @ 2020-02-05 15:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 39436
The documentation (C-h f) for package-menu-hide-package says:
"""
Hide a package under point in Package Menu.
If optional arg BUTTON is non-nil, describe its associated package.
"""
This is incorrect. (1) There is no optional arg BUTTON.
(2) It doesn't hide package under point. Instead it asks for a regpexp
(defaulting to the name of the package under point), and hides packages
that match the regexp.
This is also the description in the Emacs info file:
"""
‘H’
Permanently hide packages that match a regexp
(‘package-menu-hide-package’).
"""
(although "permanently" sounds quite strong to me.)
and the menu entry correctly says "Hide by Regexp", and the associated
help info also is "Permanently hide all packages matching a regexp".
On a side node, in the package-menu-mode-map, this entry and another one uses #', whereas the other just use '.
"""
(define-key map "h" 'package-menu-quick-help)
(define-key map "H" #'package-menu-hide-package)
(define-key map "?" 'package-menu-describe-package)
(define-key map "(" #'package-menu-toggle-hiding)
"""
Is there a reason for this discrepancy?
In GNU Emacs 27.0.60 (build 1, i686-apple-darwin10.0.0, NS appkit-1561.61 Version 10.13.6 (Build 17G10021))
of 2020-02-05 built on cochabamba.vanoostrum.org
Repository revision: 831508422e26e6d88dd5d8960e2569c489604c85
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Mark saved where search started
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command-execute: Command attempted to use minibuffer while in minibuffer
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-05 15:10 bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package Pieter van Oostrum
@ 2020-02-08 9:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-08 13:58 ` Pieter van Oostrum
[not found] ` <handler.39436.D39436.158115493214005.notifdone@debbugs.gnu.org>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-02-08 9:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pieter van Oostrum; +Cc: 39436-done
> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 16:10:55 +0100
> From: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter@vanoostrum.org>
>
> The documentation (C-h f) for package-menu-hide-package says:
>
> """
> Hide a package under point in Package Menu.
> If optional arg BUTTON is non-nil, describe its associated package.
> """
>
> This is incorrect. (1) There is no optional arg BUTTON.
> (2) It doesn't hide package under point. Instead it asks for a regpexp
> (defaulting to the name of the package under point), and hides packages
> that match the regexp.
Fixed.
> This is also the description in the Emacs info file:
>
> """
>
> ‘H’
> Permanently hide packages that match a regexp
> (‘package-menu-hide-package’).
> """
> (although "permanently" sounds quite strong to me.)
I've removed "Permanently" and made the description more detailed.
> and the menu entry correctly says "Hide by Regexp", and the associated
> help info also is "Permanently hide all packages matching a regexp".
Removed "Permanently" here as well.
> On a side node, in the package-menu-mode-map, this entry and another one uses #', whereas the other just use '.
>
> """
> (define-key map "h" 'package-menu-quick-help)
> (define-key map "H" #'package-menu-hide-package)
> (define-key map "?" 'package-menu-describe-package)
> (define-key map "(" #'package-menu-toggle-hiding)
> """
> Is there a reason for this discrepancy?
This is the "brave new world" of function quoting advancing slowly
through our sources.
Thanks.
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-08 9:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-02-08 13:58 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-02-08 14:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Pieter van Oostrum @ 2020-02-08 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 39436; +Cc: pieter
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 16:10:55 +0100
>> From: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter@vanoostrum.org>
>>
>> The documentation (C-h f) for package-menu-hide-package says:
>>
>> """
>> Hide a package under point in Package Menu.
>> If optional arg BUTTON is non-nil, describe its associated package.
>> """
>>
>> This is incorrect. (1) There is no optional arg BUTTON.
>> (2) It doesn't hide package under point. Instead it asks for a regpexp
>> (defaulting to the name of the package under point), and hides packages
>> that match the regexp.
>
> Fixed.
>
>> This is also the description in the Emacs info file:
>>
>> """
>>
>> ‘H’
>> Permanently hide packages that match a regexp
>> (‘package-menu-hide-package’).
>> """
>> (although "permanently" sounds quite strong to me.)
>
> I've removed "Permanently" and made the description more detailed.
This part isn't correct.
The default value of the
regexp will hide only the package whose name is at point, so just
pressing @key{RET} to the prompt will hide the current package.
It will hide every package whose name STARTS WITH the name of the
current package The default regexp is \`<name>; for the description to
be correct it should be \`<name>\'. In fact I think this would be a
better default, but it would be an incompatible change (but not very
serious). Given the wrong previous documentation, it might even have
been the original intention.
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-08 13:58 ` Pieter van Oostrum
@ 2020-02-08 14:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-09 16:08 ` Pieter van Oostrum
0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-02-08 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pieter van Oostrum; +Cc: 39436
> From: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter-l@vanoostrum.org>
> Cc: eliz@gnu.org, pieter@vanoostrum.org
> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2020 14:58:27 +0100
>
> This part isn't correct.
>
> The default value of the
> regexp will hide only the package whose name is at point, so just
> pressing @key{RET} to the prompt will hide the current package.
>
> It will hide every package whose name STARTS WITH the name of the
> current package
Which is a bug in the code, not in the documentation, IMO. It makes
no sense to show as default a regexp that will hide more than just the
package at point.
This is why I said in the documentation what I think should happen,
although I did see the regexp we offer as the default. Patches to
make the code do what it should are welcome.
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-08 14:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-02-09 16:08 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-02-09 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-09 16:52 ` Pieter van Oostrum
0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Pieter van Oostrum @ 2020-02-09 16:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 39436
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> This is why I said in the documentation what I think should happen,
> although I did see the regexp we offer as the default. Patches to
> make the code do what it should are welcome.
Here is a patch:
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From 8dd8dc4950f3ad265623684307b322af53200598 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter@vanoostrum.org>
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 16:55:29 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Correct default regexp in 'package-menu-hide-package'
* lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el (package-menu-mode-menu): Correct default
regexp, so it only selects the package at point.
(Bug#39436)
---
lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el | 3 ++-
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
index 64d2001646..b652dc9d6e 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
@@ -3195,7 +3195,8 @@ package-menu-hide-package
(declare (interactive-only "change `package-hidden-regexps' instead."))
(let* ((name (when (derived-mode-p 'package-menu-mode)
(concat "\\`" (regexp-quote (symbol-name (package-desc-name
- (tabulated-list-get-id)))))))
+ (tabulated-list-get-id))))
+ "\\'")))
(re (read-string "Hide packages matching regexp: " name)))
;; Test if it is valid.
(string-match re "")
--
2.25.0
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PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-09 16:08 ` Pieter van Oostrum
@ 2020-02-09 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-09 20:50 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-02-09 16:52 ` Pieter van Oostrum
1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-02-09 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pieter van Oostrum, Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 39436
> From: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter-l@vanoostrum.org>
> Cc: 39436@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2020 17:08:08 +0100
>
> * lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el (package-menu-mode-menu): Correct default
> regexp, so it only selects the package at point.
> (Bug#39436)
> ---
> lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el | 3 ++-
> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
> index 64d2001646..b652dc9d6e 100644
> --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
> +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
> @@ -3195,7 +3195,8 @@ package-menu-hide-package
> (declare (interactive-only "change `package-hidden-regexps' instead."))
> (let* ((name (when (derived-mode-p 'package-menu-mode)
> (concat "\\`" (regexp-quote (symbol-name (package-desc-name
> - (tabulated-list-get-id)))))))
> + (tabulated-list-get-id))))
> + "\\'")))
> (re (read-string "Hide packages matching regexp: " name)))
> ;; Test if it is valid.
> (string-match re "")
Thanks!
Does anyone see a reason why this change could be unsafe on the
emacs-27 branch?
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-09 16:08 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-02-09 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-02-09 16:52 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-02-09 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Pieter van Oostrum @ 2020-02-09 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 39436
There is another strange thing in package.el. I wonder if it needs its own bug report or can be put under the current cover.
There are two menu entries for the operation revert-buffer (r), each with slightly different, and I would say not exactly consistent, descriptions.
["Refresh Package List" revert-buffer
:help "Redownload the ELPA archive"
:active (not package--downloads-in-progress)]
["Redisplay buffer" revert-buffer :help "Update the buffer with current list of packages"]
I guess one of them might be a legacy left-over.
Moreover, they should both have the (not package--downloads-in-progress) condition.
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www: http://pieter.vanoostrum.org/
PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-09 16:52 ` Pieter van Oostrum
@ 2020-02-09 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-09 19:44 ` Pieter van Oostrum
0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-02-09 17:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pieter van Oostrum; +Cc: 39436
> From: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter-l@vanoostrum.org>
> Cc: 39436@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2020 17:52:28 +0100
>
> There are two menu entries for the operation revert-buffer (r), each with slightly different, and I would say not exactly consistent, descriptions.
>
> ["Refresh Package List" revert-buffer
> :help "Redownload the ELPA archive"
> :active (not package--downloads-in-progress)]
> ["Redisplay buffer" revert-buffer :help "Update the buffer with current list of packages"]
>
> I guess one of them might be a legacy left-over.
Looks like that. Can you use the Git history commands to find out how
we arrived at this situation?
Thanks.
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-09 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-02-09 19:44 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-02-09 20:28 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-02-09 20:30 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Pieter van Oostrum @ 2020-02-09 19:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 39436
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter-l@vanoostrum.org>
>> Cc: 39436@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2020 17:52:28 +0100
>>
>> There are two menu entries for the operation revert-buffer (r), each with slightly different, and I would say not exactly consistent, descriptions.
>>
>> ["Refresh Package List" revert-buffer
>> :help "Redownload the ELPA archive"
>> :active (not package--downloads-in-progress)]
>> ["Redisplay buffer" revert-buffer :help "Update the buffer with current list of packages"]
>>
>> I guess one of them might be a legacy left-over.
>
> Looks like that. Can you use the Git history commands to find out how
> we arrived at this situation?
This was changed in commit 0c293f1520, with a correction in d30f5e7eee, both by Stefan Kangas, as a response to bug #35504.
Before the change there were two functions:
(1) 'revert-buffer', bound to "g" and "Redisplay buffer", inherited from special-mode, via tabulated-list-mode. This reverted the buffer from the in-core data structure.
(2) package-menu-refresh, bound to 'r' and "Refresh Package List", that reloaded the package list from the archives.
The patch merged these functions into a single one, and bound it to "r", and changed the "Refresh Package List" menu entry to revert-buffer. The function is also still bound to "g" by inheritance from special-mode.
It also made 'package-menu-refresh' obsolete as an alias to 'revert-buffer'.
And it changed revert-buffer to also load the package list, by setting 'revert-buffer-function' to the internal function 'package-menu--refresh'. But the menu entry "Redisplay buffer" was not removed, and it actually is wrong now, because it doesn't conditionally activate it on '(not package--downloads-in-progress)'.
So I think this is the one that should be removed (also because it does more than just redisplaying the buffer). I think that's the only change that is necessary.
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-09 19:44 ` Pieter van Oostrum
@ 2020-02-09 20:28 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-02-09 20:36 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-02-09 20:30 ` Stefan Kangas
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From: Pieter van Oostrum @ 2020-02-09 20:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 39436
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Proposed patch:
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From 56bb338bf9789450a70fc6319c8b67e7268c57c1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter@vanoostrum.org>
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 21:22:55 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Remove obsolete menu entry "Redisplay buffer"
* lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el (package-menu-mode-menu): Remove obsolete
menu entry "Redisplay buffer".
(package-menu-mode-menu): Menu entry "Refresh Package List":
make the doc string more accurate.
(Bug#39436)
---
lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el | 3 +--
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
index b652dc9d6e..10ce19525a 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
@@ -2714,9 +2714,8 @@ package-menu-mode-menu
["Help" package-menu-quick-help :help "Show short key binding help for package-menu-mode"]
"--"
["Refresh Package List" revert-buffer
- :help "Redownload the ELPA archive"
+ :help "Redownload the package archive(s)"
:active (not package--downloads-in-progress)]
- ["Redisplay buffer" revert-buffer :help "Update the buffer with current list of packages"]
["Execute Marked Actions" package-menu-execute :help "Perform all the marked actions"]
"--"
--
2.25.0
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I have also corrected the Refresh Package List doc string: there can be other archives than ELPA.
--
Pieter van Oostrum
www: http://pieter.vanoostrum.org/
PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-09 19:44 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-02-09 20:28 ` Pieter van Oostrum
@ 2020-02-09 20:30 ` Stefan Kangas
1 sibling, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-02-09 20:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pieter van Oostrum; +Cc: 39436
Pieter van Oostrum <pieter-l@vanoostrum.org> writes:
> And it changed revert-buffer to also load the package list, by setting
> 'revert-buffer-function' to the internal function 'package-menu--refresh'. But
> the menu entry "Redisplay buffer" was not removed, and it actually is wrong now,
> because it doesn't conditionally activate it on '(not
> package--downloads-in-progress)'.
Indeed. Note that the condition here is probably a bit simplistic;
see Bug#39187. I'm working on implementing the fix suggested there,
and will add a reminder to also change this menu entry. IOW, we can
leave it as is in the context of this bug.
> So I think this is the one that should be removed (also because it
> does more than just redisplaying the buffer). I think that's the
> only change that is necessary.
Agreed.
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-09 20:28 ` Pieter van Oostrum
@ 2020-02-09 20:36 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-02-09 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pieter van Oostrum; +Cc: 39436
Pieter van Oostrum <pieter-l@vanoostrum.org> writes:
> diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
> index b652dc9d6e..10ce19525a 100644
> --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
> +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
> @@ -2714,9 +2714,8 @@ package-menu-mode-menu
> ["Help" package-menu-quick-help :help "Show short key binding help for package-menu-mode"]
> "--"
> ["Refresh Package List" revert-buffer
> - :help "Redownload the ELPA archive"
> + :help "Redownload the package archive(s)"
> :active (not package--downloads-in-progress)]
> - ["Redisplay buffer" revert-buffer :help "Update the buffer with current list of packages"]
> ["Execute Marked Actions" package-menu-execute :help "Perform all the marked actions"]
This looks correct to me.
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-09 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-02-09 20:50 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-02-15 8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-02-09 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Pieter van Oostrum, 39436, Stefan Monnier
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> Does anyone see a reason why this change could be unsafe on the
> emacs-27 branch?
FWIW, I don't see any reason to consider it unsafe.
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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* bug#39436: closed (Re: bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package)
[not found] ` <handler.39436.D39436.158115493214005.notifdone@debbugs.gnu.org>
@ 2020-02-09 21:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-02-15 8:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-02-09 21:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Pieter van Oostrum, 39436
help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) writes:
>> (although "permanently" sounds quite strong to me.)
>
> I've removed "Permanently" and made the description more detailed.
Thanks. But in the new text, there seems to be no indication that the
hidden status is saved for future sessions.
I'm not sure how to best describe that, if we feel that "permanently"
is not clear enough. Maybe we could say something along the lines of
"for all future sessions" or somesuch. It's probably also a good idea
to mention the variable package-hidden-regexps.
WDYT?
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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* bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package
2020-02-09 20:50 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2020-02-15 8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-02-15 8:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: pieter-l, 39436, monnier
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Cc: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter-l@vanoostrum.org>, Stefan Monnier
> <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, 39436@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2020 21:50:46 +0100
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > Does anyone see a reason why this change could be unsafe on the
> > emacs-27 branch?
>
> FWIW, I don't see any reason to consider it unsafe.
Thanks, installed on the emacs-27 branch.
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* bug#39436: closed (Re: bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package)
2020-02-09 21:00 ` bug#39436: closed (Re: bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package) Stefan Kangas
@ 2020-02-15 8:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-15 10:31 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-11 2:07 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-02-15 8:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: pieter, 39436
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Cc: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter@vanoostrum.org>, 39436@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:00:27 +0100
>
> help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) writes:
>
> >> (although "permanently" sounds quite strong to me.)
> >
> > I've removed "Permanently" and made the description more detailed.
>
> Thanks. But in the new text, there seems to be no indication that the
> hidden status is saved for future sessions.
>
> I'm not sure how to best describe that, if we feel that "permanently"
> is not clear enough. Maybe we could say something along the lines of
> "for all future sessions" or somesuch. It's probably also a good idea
> to mention the variable package-hidden-regexps.
>
> WDYT?
Feel free to make such a change, although I don't particularly see why
we need to emphasize the "future sessions" part here. We don't
actually say anywhere anything to the contrary, and there are no other
commands that hide stuff only temporarily, do we?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* bug#39436: closed (Re: bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package)
2020-02-15 8:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-02-15 10:31 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-11 2:07 ` Stefan Kangas
1 sibling, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Pieter van Oostrum @ 2020-02-15 10:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Stefan Kangas, 39436
On 15 Feb 2020, at 09:25, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
>> Cc: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter@vanoostrum.org>, 39436@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:00:27 +0100
>>
>> help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) writes:
>>
>>>> (although "permanently" sounds quite strong to me.)
>>>
>>> I've removed "Permanently" and made the description more detailed.
>>
>> Thanks. But in the new text, there seems to be no indication that the
>> hidden status is saved for future sessions.
>>
>> I'm not sure how to best describe that, if we feel that "permanently"
>> is not clear enough. Maybe we could say something along the lines of
>> "for all future sessions" or somesuch. It's probably also a good idea
>> to mention the variable package-hidden-regexps.
>>
>> WDYT?
>
> Feel free to make such a change, although I don't particularly see why
> we need to emphasize the "future sessions" part here. We don't
> actually say anywhere anything to the contrary, and there are no other
> commands that hide stuff only temporarily, do we?
I think the point is that the accumulated value in package-hidden-regexps is also written to customizations, and therefore preserved for future Emacs sessions.
--
Pieter van Oostrum
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* bug#39436: closed (Re: bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package)
2020-02-15 8:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-15 10:31 ` Pieter van Oostrum
@ 2020-03-11 2:07 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-03-11 7:36 ` Pieter van Oostrum
1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-03-11 2:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 39436, pieter
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> > I've removed "Permanently" and made the description more detailed.
>>
>> Thanks. But in the new text, there seems to be no indication that the
>> hidden status is saved for future sessions.
>>
>> I'm not sure how to best describe that, if we feel that "permanently"
>> is not clear enough. Maybe we could say something along the lines of
>> "for all future sessions" or somesuch. It's probably also a good idea
>> to mention the variable package-hidden-regexps.
>>
>> WDYT?
>
> Feel free to make such a change, although I don't particularly see why
> we need to emphasize the "future sessions" part here. We don't
> actually say anywhere anything to the contrary, and there are no other
> commands that hide stuff only temporarily, do we?
Well, the filter commands in the package menu only work in the current
buffer. If you close the buffer and open it again, the filters are
gone. That is, to my mind, temporary.
In this case, the filter is saved using customize-save-variable and
will therefore be there even if you restart Emacs. So I think it can
be a bit surprising if it's not documented.
I would suggest the attached patch.
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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From a0250312753fa4a31e1861561570d56c6843aa39 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 03:05:12 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Clarify package-menu-hide-package docstring
* lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el (package-menu-hide-package): Clarify in
docstring that hiding is saved in a user option. (Bug#39436)
---
lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el | 7 +++++--
1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
index 43eb038a86..7dbb99684f 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
@@ -3190,8 +3190,11 @@ 'package-menu-refresh
(defun package-menu-hide-package ()
"Hide in Package Menu packages that match a regexp.
-Prompts for the regexp to match against package names.
-The default regexp will hide only the package whose name is at point."
+Prompt for the regexp to match against package names.
+The default regexp will hide only the package whose name is at point.
+
+The regexp is saved for future Emacs sessions in the user option
+`package-hidden-regexps'."
(interactive)
(package--ensure-package-menu-mode)
(declare (interactive-only "change `package-hidden-regexps' instead."))
--
2.25.1
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* bug#39436: closed (Re: bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package)
2020-03-11 2:07 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2020-03-11 7:36 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-11 20:37 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Pieter van Oostrum @ 2020-03-11 7:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: 39436, pieter
Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:
> diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
> index 43eb038a86..7dbb99684f 100644
> --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
> +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
> @@ -3190,8 +3190,11 @@ 'package-menu-refresh
>
> (defun package-menu-hide-package ()
> "Hide in Package Menu packages that match a regexp.
> -Prompts for the regexp to match against package names.
> -The default regexp will hide only the package whose name is at point."
> +Prompt for the regexp to match against package names.
> +The default regexp will hide only the package whose name is at point.
> +
> +The regexp is saved for future Emacs sessions in the user option
> +`package-hidden-regexps'."
This could be interpreted that only this regexp is saved. In reality it is the collective list of the regexps that have been entered in this way, that is saved, until the option is cleared/changed.
So it would be better to say something like
The collected regexps are saved...
--
Pieter van Oostrum
www: http://pieter.vanoostrum.org/
PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]
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* bug#39436: closed (Re: bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package)
2020-03-11 7:36 ` Pieter van Oostrum
@ 2020-03-11 20:37 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-03-11 22:10 ` Pieter van Oostrum
0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-03-11 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pieter van Oostrum; +Cc: pieter, 39436
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Pieter van Oostrum <pieter-l@vanoostrum.org> writes:
> This could be interpreted that only this regexp is saved. In reality
> it is the collective list of the regexps that have been entered in
> this way, that is saved, until the option is cleared/changed.
Good point, thanks. I've attached a revised version which goes a bit
further to document how this works. Feedback welcome.
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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From 5d3131c6658183863bc80b873f334bb5a70b152e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 03:05:12 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Improve Package Menu hiding docstrings
* lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el (package-menu-toggle-hiding): Add
reference to 'package-menu-hidden-regexps'.
* lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el (package-menu-hide-package): Improve
docstring to say that hiding is saved in a user option. Fix a
typo. (Bug#39436)
---
lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el | 20 ++++++++++++++++----
1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
index 43eb038a86..076129f57a 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
@@ -2861,7 +2861,11 @@ package-menu--hide-packages
Installed obsolete packages are always displayed.")
(defun package-menu-toggle-hiding ()
- "In Package Menu, toggle visibility of obsolete available packages."
+ "In Package Menu, toggle visibility of obsolete available packages.
+
+Also hide packages whose name matches a regexp in user option
+`package-hidden-regexps' (a list). To add regexps to this list,
+use `package-menu-hide-package'.."
(interactive)
(package--ensure-package-menu-mode)
(setq package-menu--hide-packages
@@ -3190,8 +3194,16 @@ 'package-menu-refresh
(defun package-menu-hide-package ()
"Hide in Package Menu packages that match a regexp.
-Prompts for the regexp to match against package names.
-The default regexp will hide only the package whose name is at point."
+Prompt for the regexp to match against package names.
+The default regexp will hide only the package whose name is at point.
+
+The regexp is added to the list in the user option
+`package-hidden-regexps' and saved for future sessions.
+
+To unhide a package, type
+`\\[customize-variable] RET package-hidden-regexps'.
+
+Type \\[package-menu-toggle-hiding] to toggle package hiding."
(interactive)
(package--ensure-package-menu-mode)
(declare (interactive-only "change `package-hidden-regexps' instead."))
@@ -3210,7 +3222,7 @@ package-menu-hide-package
package-archive-contents)))
(message "Packages to hide: %d. Type `%s' to toggle or `%s' to customize"
(length hidden)
- (substitute-command-keys "\\[package-menu-toggle-hidding]")
+ (substitute-command-keys "\\[package-menu-toggle-hiding]")
(substitute-command-keys "\\[customize-variable] RET package-hidden-regexps")))))
--
2.25.1
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* bug#39436: closed (Re: bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package)
2020-03-11 20:37 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2020-03-11 22:10 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-14 9:05 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Pieter van Oostrum @ 2020-03-11 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: pieter, 39436
There is a double full stop at the end of the first docstring:
+use `package-menu-hide-package'.."
--
Pieter van Oostrum
www: http://pieter.vanoostrum.org/
PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]
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* bug#39436: closed (Re: bug#39436: 27.0.60; Documentaion error for package-menu-hide-package)
2020-03-11 22:10 ` Pieter van Oostrum
@ 2020-03-14 9:05 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-03-14 9:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pieter van Oostrum; +Cc: 39436, pieter
Pieter van Oostrum <pieter-l@vanoostrum.org> writes:
> There is a double full stop at the end of the first docstring:
>
> +use `package-menu-hide-package'.."
Thanks. Fixed that and pushed to emacs-27 as cbe643104d.
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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