* bug#43916: $$, $@, $bla colors in Perl mode vs. Shell-script mode @ 2020-10-10 23:04 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson 2020-10-11 4:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson @ 2020-10-10 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 43916 Looking at print $$, $@, $bla in Shell-script mode and Perl mode: At least all three leading $ should look the same in the same file. And they should all either be the same color, or different colors, from what follows them. So Perl mode has some work to do. emacs-version "26.3" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#43916: $$, $@, $bla colors in Perl mode vs. Shell-script mode 2020-10-10 23:04 bug#43916: $$, $@, $bla colors in Perl mode vs. Shell-script mode 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson @ 2020-10-11 4:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen 2020-10-15 23:50 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-10-11 4:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson; +Cc: 43916 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes: > Looking at > print $$, $@, $bla > in Shell-script mode and Perl mode: > At least all three leading $ should look the same in the same file. Is this about Perl mode or shell-script-mode? In Perl mode, all the four $'s look the same to me. > And they should all either be the same color, or different colors, from what > follows them. The "bla" has a different colour, but I'm not sure why you think the "$" should have the same colour as the "bla". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#43916: $$, $@, $bla colors in Perl mode vs. Shell-script mode 2020-10-11 4:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-10-15 23:50 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson 2020-10-16 5:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson @ 2020-10-15 23:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 43916 >>>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: LI> 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes: >> Looking at >> print $$, $@, $bla >> in Shell-script mode and Perl mode: >> At least all three leading $ should look the same in the same file. LI> Is this about Perl mode or shell-script-mode? One must be wrong. They can't both be correct. I just don't know which. Or maybe both aren't correct. Anyway their syntax can't be that different. LI> In Perl mode, all the four $'s look the same to me. >> And they should all either be the same color, or different colors, from what >> follows them. LI> The "bla" has a different colour, but I'm not sure why you think the "$" LI> should have the same colour as the "bla". Anyway, no matter how you look at it, there is at least something wrong with at least one of items in at least one of the modes! If you say one item looks great, then you have to explain how another item can use a different coloring rule. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#43916: $$, $@, $bla colors in Perl mode vs. Shell-script mode 2020-10-15 23:50 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson @ 2020-10-16 5:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen 2020-10-18 3:52 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-10-16 5:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson; +Cc: 43916 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes: > One must be wrong. They can't both be correct. I just don't know which. > Or maybe both aren't correct. Anyway their syntax can't be that > different. Sure they can -- they're different languages, even if they use the same symbols. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#43916: $$, $@, $bla colors in Perl mode vs. Shell-script mode 2020-10-16 5:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-10-18 3:52 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson 2020-10-19 7:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson @ 2020-10-18 3:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 43916 >>>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: LI> 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes: >> One must be wrong. They can't both be correct. I just don't know which. >> Or maybe both aren't correct. Anyway their syntax can't be that >> different. LI> Sure they can -- they're different languages, even if they use the same LI> symbols. OK but that doesn't explain the inconsistencies within the same language seen. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#43916: $$, $@, $bla colors in Perl mode vs. Shell-script mode 2020-10-18 3:52 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson @ 2020-10-19 7:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen 2020-10-19 15:29 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-10-19 7:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson; +Cc: 43916 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes: > OK but that doesn't explain the inconsistencies within the same language seen. The $ is the same colour in Perl mode, so you'll have to be more specific about what inconsistencies you're referring to. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#43916: $$, $@, $bla colors in Perl mode vs. Shell-script mode 2020-10-19 7:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-10-19 15:29 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson 2020-10-21 6:25 ` Corwin Brust 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson @ 2020-10-19 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 43916 >>>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: LI> 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes: >> OK but that doesn't explain the inconsistencies within the same language seen. LI> The $ is the same colour in Perl mode, so you'll have to be more LI> specific about what inconsistencies you're referring to. All I know is in perl mode, $$, $@, $bla BB, BB, BTTT (Black, Tan) So it should be BT, BT, BTTT like Shell-script mode, or BB, BB, BBBB or TT, TT, TTTT. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#43916: $$, $@, $bla colors in Perl mode vs. Shell-script mode 2020-10-19 15:29 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson @ 2020-10-21 6:25 ` Corwin Brust 2020-10-21 22:45 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Corwin Brust @ 2020-10-21 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, 43916 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1741 bytes --] Hi! On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 6:42 AM 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> wrote: > > >>>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: > LI> 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes: > > >> OK but that doesn't explain the inconsistencies within the same language seen. > > LI> The $ is the same colour in Perl mode, so you'll have to be more > LI> specific about what inconsistencies you're referring to. > > All I know is in perl mode, > $$, $@, $bla > BB, BB, BTTT (Black, Tan) > > So it should be > BT, BT, BTTT like Shell-script mode, > or > BB, BB, BBBB > or > TT, TT, TTTT. I think what we have now makes sense. I've tried to attach a screenshot of a -Q session but with (setq cperl-hairy t) In essence, what I think I see is that cperl will color the whole array or hash variable including the @ or % sigil when it used as such, however, when a sigil is used to dereference only sigils is colored for the hash or array - the scalar being derefered is colored per scalar (e.g. tan). This is perhaps the most immediately obvious difference between perl and cperl-mode and probably a big part of why I think that cperl provides much better visual feedback than perl-mode. (As an aside, I've long wondered if there are people who perl-mode to cperl-mode and if disagreement about this drives that preference.) One thing I could wish for is that scalars used within hash and array access would be colored just as they are otherwise, e.g. using the tan color for the $scalar in $arr[$scalar] and $hash{$scalar}. Otherwise I'm pretty happy; I've not found a better Perl editing experience than Emacs cperl-mode. Thanks for your work on this feature! Corwin [-- Attachment #2: emacs_4h1pZBfvyO.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 25239 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#43916: $$, $@, $bla colors in Perl mode vs. Shell-script mode 2020-10-21 6:25 ` Corwin Brust @ 2020-10-21 22:45 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson @ 2020-10-21 22:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Corwin Brust; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, 43916 That's great about cperl mode. I was just talking about the default modes that emacs chooses for $ emacs fileA.sh fileB.pl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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