* bug#17555: 24.4.50; 'mark-paragraph' does not allow extending the region backwards
@ 2014-05-22 20:23 Dani Moncayo
2019-08-14 23:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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From: Dani Moncayo @ 2014-05-22 20:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 17555
After reading (info "(emacs) Marking Objects") and doing some tests, I
wonder why 'mark-paragraph' does not behave like 'mark-word' and
'mark-sexp' when the mark is located before point. In that situation
'mark-word' and 'mark-sexp' move the mark backwards to select an
earlier element (which I think is TRT), but 'mark-paragraph' moves the
mark forward instead (like when the mark is after point).
Could this inconsistency be fixed?
TIA
In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.8)
of 2014-05-05 on LEG570
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11501000
System Description: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
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Dani Moncayo
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* bug#17555: 24.4.50; 'mark-paragraph' does not allow extending the region backwards
2014-05-22 20:23 bug#17555: 24.4.50; 'mark-paragraph' does not allow extending the region backwards Dani Moncayo
@ 2019-08-14 23:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-15 18:41 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2019-08-14 23:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: 17555
Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com> writes:
> After reading (info "(emacs) Marking Objects") and doing some tests, I
> wonder why 'mark-paragraph' does not behave like 'mark-word' and
> 'mark-sexp' when the mark is located before point. In that situation
> 'mark-word' and 'mark-sexp' move the mark backwards to select an
> earlier element (which I think is TRT), but 'mark-paragraph' moves the
> mark forward instead (like when the mark is after point).
>
> Could this inconsistency be fixed?
It is somewhat inconsistent, but it's been documented to be this way
since at least 2001:
--
Put point at beginning of this paragraph, mark at end.
The paragraph marked is the one that contains point or follows point.
--
So I don't think this is something than can be changed at this point,
and I'm closing this bug report.
--
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* bug#17555: 24.4.50; 'mark-paragraph' does not allow extending the region backwards
2019-08-14 23:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2019-08-15 18:41 ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-20 6:50 ` Dani Moncayo
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2019-08-15 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 17555, Dani Moncayo
>> After reading (info "(emacs) Marking Objects") and doing some tests, I
>> wonder why 'mark-paragraph' does not behave like 'mark-word' and
>> 'mark-sexp' when the mark is located before point. In that situation
>> 'mark-word' and 'mark-sexp' move the mark backwards to select an
>> earlier element (which I think is TRT), but 'mark-paragraph' moves the
>> mark forward instead (like when the mark is after point).
>>
>> Could this inconsistency be fixed?
>
> It is somewhat inconsistent, but it's been documented to be this way
> since at least 2001:
>
> --
> Put point at beginning of this paragraph, mark at end.
> The paragraph marked is the one that contains point or follows point.
> --
mark-paragraph could be fixed for consistency, but the problem is that
there are more commands that should be fixed then as well, e.g. mark-defun,
mark-page...
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* bug#17555: 24.4.50; 'mark-paragraph' does not allow extending the region backwards
2019-08-15 18:41 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2019-08-20 6:50 ` Dani Moncayo
2019-08-20 22:05 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Dani Moncayo @ 2019-08-20 6:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: 17555, Lars Ingebrigtsen
> mark-paragraph could be fixed for consistency, but the problem is that
> there are more commands that should be fixed then as well, e.g. mark-defun,
> mark-page...
I may be missing something, but I don't see the downside of making
them all consistent. I.e., I don't think such a change would break
anyone's workflow.
--
Dani Moncayo
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* bug#17555: 24.4.50; 'mark-paragraph' does not allow extending the region backwards
2019-08-20 6:50 ` Dani Moncayo
@ 2019-08-20 22:05 ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-21 7:19 ` Dani Moncayo
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2019-08-20 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: 17555, Lars Ingebrigtsen
>> mark-paragraph could be fixed for consistency, but the problem is that
>> there are more commands that should be fixed then as well, e.g. mark-defun,
>> mark-page...
>
> I may be missing something, but I don't see the downside of making
> them all consistent. I.e., I don't think such a change would break
> anyone's workflow.
I agree all they could be consistent. But what if some users prefer
the old way? Maybe add a new customizable option that would affect
the behavior of all these commands (extend/don't extend the region backwards)?
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* bug#17555: 24.4.50; 'mark-paragraph' does not allow extending the region backwards
2019-08-20 22:05 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2019-08-21 7:19 ` Dani Moncayo
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Dani Moncayo @ 2019-08-21 7:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: 17555, Lars Ingebrigtsen
On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:07 AM Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> wrote:
>
> >> mark-paragraph could be fixed for consistency, but the problem is that
> >> there are more commands that should be fixed then as well, e.g. mark-defun,
> >> mark-page...
> >
> > I may be missing something, but I don't see the downside of making
> > them all consistent. I.e., I don't think such a change would break
> > anyone's workflow.
>
> I agree all they could be consistent. But what if some users prefer
> the old way?
I'd be surprised to see such users. But OK.
> Maybe add a new customizable option that would affect
> the behavior of all these commands (extend/don't extend the region backwards)?
I'd be fine with that (though it would increase the complexity of the
code to cater to some use-case that perhaps no one would care about).
--
Dani Moncayo
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