From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 20871@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20871: 25.0.50; fill-single-char-nobreak-p does not recognize a single-letter word when it is preceded by an open paren
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 17:34:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k2jwtfkj.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8337qkb7v7.fsf@gnu.org>
On 2016-04-17, at 14:57, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
>> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 08:34:30 +0200
>>
>> >> today I found that fill-single-char-nobreak-p is just a bit too
>> >> simplistic. When point is after e.g. the string " (a", it returns nil
>> >> instead of t. I am not sure which characters should be added to the
>> >> regex, but at least the opening paren (and maybe bracket) should be
>> >> there, so I'd change the regex into [[:space:]][[(]*[[:alpha:]]. (Two
>> >> or more opening parens/brackets are unlikely, but when in doubt, I guess
>> >> it's better to return t than nil than the other way round.)
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >
>> > Just noticed that there is a hardcoded (backward-char 2), so it
>> > seems that adding a few characters to the regex is not enough. Maybe
>> > looking-back is the way to go (though it might slow filling down)?
>> > I don't know.
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> so here's a patch for the bug I reported some time ago.
>
> Could you please elaborate on the bug itself?
In Polish typography, it is customary to foribid line breaks after
one-letter words (and we have quite a few of them: a, i, o, w, z - they
are conjunctions or prepositions). And it is not uncommon to have
a combination of them with a parenthesized remark or something like
that. That's why allowing a linebreak after, say "(a" when writing
something in Polish (like an email, for instance) is a bug IMO.
> See, the function in question, fill-single-char-nobreak-p, is
> documented as a possible value to use in the fill hook, for a very
> specific purpose. If you are saying that it doesn't fulfill that
> purpose well enough, please show a use case where it fails to do that.
> At least the situation you described, with " (a", doesn't seem to fit
> the use cases which this function is supposed to cover, since the
> parenthesis makes a 2-character sequence, whereas
> fill-single-char-nobreak-p aims to support isolated one-character
> words.
I see. So you suggest that instead of patching
`fill-single-char-nobreak-p' I should have provided another function,
customized for Polish?
In fact, I'm not so sure about it. The whole point of such functions
(as I see it) is help write texts in natural langauges. It seems
unnatural to treat words preceded by a space and by a parenthesis *in
a natural language* differently, no?
> I also am not sure I understand what is so special about '(' that it
> has to be hard-coded here. What about '[' or '{' or '<' (or any other
> punctuation character, for that matter)?
The special thing about `(' is that (unlike other characters you
mentioned) is that it is actually used in a text in a natural language
(though one could make a case for `[', too).
>> Please review both the patch and the commit message (I'm still
>> learning to write them...).
>
> The commit message should begin with a capital letter. Also, I think
> this variant is more clear:
>
> Don't break after a single-character word that follows an opening
> parenthesis.
>
> Thanks.
Thanks and best regards,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
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2015-06-22 10:19 bug#20871: 25.0.50; fill-single-char-nobreak-p does not recognize a single-letter word when it is preceded by an open paren Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-22 10:28 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-17 6:34 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-17 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-17 15:34 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2016-04-17 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-17 17:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-27 7:02 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-27 7:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-29 12:18 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-30 11:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-30 12:26 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-30 12:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-30 16:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-30 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-30 18:42 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-30 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-07 13:28 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-09 11:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09 15:45 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-19 11:44 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-19 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-02 8:55 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13 8:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 16:01 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 17:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-15 5:13 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-15 5:13 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-15 5:30 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-15 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-24 9:34 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-24 19:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-30 17:42 ` Drew Adams
2016-04-30 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-30 18:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-02-02 9:18 ` Michal Nazarewicz
[not found] <9A9C6F59-CB27-42D1-911E-F027B443B9BE@acm.org>
[not found] ` <8336i1p8zd.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <CA+pa1O3rcDznoR0u8i_AN5iHe9mM+FHqkAO=yVM2Gu5_Gc40jQ@mail.gmail.com>
2019-08-17 6:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-17 14:17 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-08-17 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-17 15:58 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-08-19 14:07 ` Michał Nazarewicz
2019-08-19 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-19 15:36 ` Michał Nazarewicz
2019-08-19 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
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