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From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 20871@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20871: 25.0.50; fill-single-char-nobreak-p does not recognize a single-letter word when it is preceded by an open paren
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 17:34:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k2jwtfkj.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8337qkb7v7.fsf@gnu.org>


On 2016-04-17, at 14:57, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

>> From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
>> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 08:34:30 +0200
>> 
>> >> today I found that fill-single-char-nobreak-p is just a bit too
>> >> simplistic.  When point is after e.g. the string " (a", it returns nil
>> >> instead of t.  I am not sure which characters should be added to the
>> >> regex, but at least the opening paren (and maybe bracket) should be
>> >> there, so I'd change the regex into [[:space:]][[(]*[[:alpha:]].  (Two
>> >> or more opening parens/brackets are unlikely, but when in doubt, I guess
>> >> it's better to return t than nil than the other way round.)
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >
>> > Just noticed that there is a hardcoded (backward-char 2), so it
>> > seems that adding a few characters to the regex is not enough.  Maybe
>> > looking-back is the way to go (though it might slow filling down)?
>> > I don't know.
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> 
>> so here's a patch for the bug I reported some time ago.
>
> Could you please elaborate on the bug itself?

In Polish typography, it is customary to foribid line breaks after
one-letter words (and we have quite a few of them: a, i, o, w, z - they
are conjunctions or prepositions).  And it is not uncommon to have
a combination of them with a parenthesized remark or something like
that.  That's why allowing a linebreak after, say "(a" when writing
something in Polish (like an email, for instance) is a bug IMO.

> See, the function in question, fill-single-char-nobreak-p, is
> documented as a possible value to use in the fill hook, for a very
> specific purpose.  If you are saying that it doesn't fulfill that
> purpose well enough, please show a use case where it fails to do that.
> At least the situation you described, with " (a", doesn't seem to fit
> the use cases which this function is supposed to cover, since the
> parenthesis makes a 2-character sequence, whereas
> fill-single-char-nobreak-p aims to support isolated one-character
> words.

I see.  So you suggest that instead of patching
`fill-single-char-nobreak-p' I should have provided another function,
customized for Polish?

In fact, I'm not so sure about it.  The whole point of such functions
(as I see it) is help write texts in natural langauges.  It seems
unnatural to treat words preceded by a space and by a parenthesis *in
a natural language* differently, no?

> I also am not sure I understand what is so special about '(' that it
> has to be hard-coded here.  What about '[' or '{' or '<' (or any other
> punctuation character, for that matter)?

The special thing about `(' is that (unlike other characters you
mentioned) is that it is actually used in a text in a natural language
(though one could make a case for `[', too).

>> Please review both the patch and the commit message (I'm still
>> learning to write them...).
>
> The commit message should begin with a capital letter.  Also, I think
> this variant is more clear:
>
>  Don't break after a single-character word that follows an opening
>  parenthesis.
>
> Thanks.

Thanks and best regards,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University





  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-17 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-22 10:19 bug#20871: 25.0.50; fill-single-char-nobreak-p does not recognize a single-letter word when it is preceded by an open paren Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-22 10:28 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-17  6:34   ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-17 14:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-17 15:34       ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2016-04-17 16:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-17 17:41           ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-27  7:02           ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-27  7:20             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-29 12:18               ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-30 11:21                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-30 12:26                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-30 12:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-30 16:41                       ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-30 17:01                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-30 18:42                           ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-04-30 19:01                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-07 13:28                               ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-09 11:52                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09 15:45                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-19 11:44                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-19 16:15                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-02  8:55                                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13  8:46                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 16:01                                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13 16:53                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 17:02                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-15  5:13                                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-15  5:13                                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-15  5:30                                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-15 13:07                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-24  9:34                                                       ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-24 19:16                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-30 17:42                         ` Drew Adams
2016-04-30 18:24                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-30 18:41                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-02-02  9:18       ` Michal Nazarewicz
     [not found] <9A9C6F59-CB27-42D1-911E-F027B443B9BE@acm.org>
     [not found] ` <8336i1p8zd.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <CA+pa1O3rcDznoR0u8i_AN5iHe9mM+FHqkAO=yVM2Gu5_Gc40jQ@mail.gmail.com>
2019-08-17  6:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-17 14:17       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-08-17 15:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-17 15:58           ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-08-19 14:07       ` Michał Nazarewicz
2019-08-19 15:01         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-19 15:36           ` Michał Nazarewicz
2019-08-19 16:16             ` Eli Zaretskii

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