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From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
To: Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@gmail.com>
Cc: 31397@debbugs.gnu.org, Zachary Kanfer <zkanfer@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#31397: 27.0.50; Emacs doesn't call package-initialize if there's no elpa directory
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 18:40:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fu2acchi.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADB4rJG+MeuNO6EOLhM67V1FUi9L_OOvbUgGWD1rYNkE40pYNQ@mail.gmail.com> (Radon Rosborough's message of "Tue, 29 May 2018 10:13:07 -0600")

Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@gmail.com> writes:

> Thanks for the cc. I wasn't aware of this bug report.
>
> The behavior makes sense, but is definitely undesirable. There are at
> least two solutions:
>
> 1. Make `package-installed-p' and other functions automatically
>    initialize package.el if necessary.
>
> 2. Call `package-initialize' unconditionally during startup.
>
> Solution (1) might make package.el functions a little slower.

I don't think speed is an issue here.  For package-installed-p in
particular, it would have no effect on speed since that function already
checks package--initialized (and checking a single variable is pretty
negligible already).

> Solution (1) seems like the correct way to do this. Is there any
> reason it wasn't done already?

Not sure, I might guess that a predicate like package-installed-p
shouldn't have side-effects, but package-install doesn't auto-initialize
either when called non-interactively.

Stefan, do you have any insight on this?






  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-29 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-10  5:17 bug#31397: 27.0.50; Emacs doesn't call package-initialize if there's no elpa directory Zachary Kanfer
2018-05-29  2:41 ` bug#31397: 27.0.50; Emacs doesn't call package-initialize if there's no Zachary Kanfer
2018-05-29 11:52 ` bug#31397: 27.0.50; Emacs doesn't call package-initialize if there's no elpa directory Noam Postavsky
2018-05-29 16:13   ` Radon Rosborough
2018-05-29 22:40     ` Noam Postavsky [this message]
2018-05-29 22:58       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-06 23:41         ` Zachary Kanfer
2019-01-22 23:12           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-04 20:01             ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-04 22:57               ` Stefan Monnier

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