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From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 32921@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, jimis@gmx.net
Subject: bug#32921: emacsclient obeys Xresources even when launched with -nw
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 16:59:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fsl5sxse.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831qwqdj2w.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 19 May 2022 11:26:15 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> We may be miscommunicating.  The offending code in x-win.el is called
> at startup, only once, and sets up default-frame-alist for all the
> future frames, including those on displays this Emacs session did not
> yet open and knows nothing about.  How would you define
> default-frame-alist that is specific to those as-yet-unknown displays?

I would leave it empty.

> And if you are saying that the code in x-win.el should only affect the
> display on which Emacs was started, then that would be an even more
> seriously breaking change.  Why should we assume that the user
> intended his/her X resources to be only honored on the (random)
> display where Emacs shows its first frame?  The files ~/.Xresources
> and ~/.Xdefaults are not specific to any display, AFAIU, they are
> global for the user.  Right?

Emacs _never_ honored any other X resource that happened to be on the
first display for every display, and I have a feeling this code was a
mistake left over from the refactoring of `x-win.el' when multi-TTY was
developed.

Emacs, like all other X programs, takes resources from several different
sources:

  - The system's locale-specific X resources.  This is normally empty on
    modern systems.

  - The user's personal X resource files for Emacs.  This is also mostly
    empty on modern systems.

  - The user's X defaults that were loaded into the X server.  Only if
    the no X resources were loaded into the X server will Emacs try to
    load them itself from ~/.Xdefaults.

  - The environment defaults.  Also empty on modern systems.

This is why X resources are typically specific to each X server, which
is also why Emacs keeps a different resource database for each display
connection, and does not try to apply resources (other than
`reverseVideo') from one display connection to another.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-19  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-03 17:49 bug#32921: emacsclient obeys Xresources even when launched with -nw Dimitrios Apostolou
2022-05-18 12:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-18 13:02   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-18 13:13     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-18 13:27       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-18 13:52         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-18 14:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19 22:58             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-19  1:37           ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19  7:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19  7:47               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19  8:26                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19  8:59                   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2022-05-19  9:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19 10:19                       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19 12:40                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19 13:09                           ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19 13:23                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19 13:40                               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19 13:55                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-20  1:04                                   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-20  7:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-20  8:15                                       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19 23:04                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-20  6:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-20  8:19                       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-20 10:50                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-20  8:28                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-20 11:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-20 11:30                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-19 13:28   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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