From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>,
41097@debbugs.gnu.org, tomasn@posteo.net, arthur.miller@live.com
Subject: bug#41097: 28.0.50; (dired-toggle-marks) not working after copy
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 02:36:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eerrtiia.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7979fef4-5df8-4997-95fd-c5be5887ab44@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 10 May 2020 09:26:01 -0700 (PDT)")
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> > Because t toggles marks, and C is not a mark, it's a flag.
>
> This is not true. Let's please not go there.
But if you think so (and I somewhat agree), isn't then the first
sentence in the docstring that Eli didn't touch:
"Toggle marks: marked files become unmarked, and vice versa."
even more confusing? I guess Eli wanted to avoid a sentence like "and
files marked with marks other than the * mark don't count as marked."
But the inconsistency goes much further, we say that commands operate on
the "marked" files, but we mean only the *-marked files.
So I guess the terminology is "marked with" applies to any mark and
"marked" only to files marked with *, and "unmarked" means "doesn't have
any mark". Oh dear, it's like learning English modal verbs.
I think we can be more specific in the docstring, and I also don't like
to introduce the second term "flag" here since it is somewhat linked to
deletion indeed, and it's meaning is as fluent as "mark" - that doesn't
help.
Ok, would something like this be a compromise?
- Toggle marks: marked files become unmarked, and vice versa.
- Files marked with other flags (such as `D') are not affected.
+ Toggle marks: marked files become unmarked, and vice versa.
+ This means that files marked with `*' are unmarked and files that don't
+ have any mark are marked with `*'. Files marked with any
+ characters other than `*' are uneffected.
(the term "marker character" is already used in the manual.)
Regards,
Michael.
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2020-05-05 15:01 bug#41097: 28.0.50; (dired-toggle-marks) not working after copy Jean Louis
2020-05-06 14:05 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-06 14:44 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-08 9:05 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-08 13:29 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-09 0:25 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-05-09 1:50 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-09 5:22 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-05-09 4:23 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-10 1:11 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-05-10 5:00 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-10 9:25 ` Tomas Nordin
2020-05-10 9:56 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-10 14:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-10 14:55 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-10 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-10 15:33 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-10 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-10 16:29 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-10 16:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-10 17:17 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-10 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-10 16:26 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-10 17:32 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-11 0:36 ` Michael Heerdegen [this message]
2020-05-11 2:33 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-11 5:34 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-05-11 16:18 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-11 13:15 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-11 16:41 ` Drew Adams
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2020-05-10 19:18 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-10 19:54 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-10 21:13 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-11 5:26 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-11 16:03 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-11 16:58 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-11 17:45 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-20 6:37 ` Jean Louis
2020-05-20 16:52 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-20 17:08 ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-12 3:21 ` Richard Stallman
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