* bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode
@ 2022-08-10 9:47 Stefan Kangas
2022-08-10 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-10 11:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2022-08-10 9:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 57105
Severity: wishlist
It is kind of unfortunate that emacs-news-mode and etc-authors-mode
don't share the same prefix. Could we change them to use the same one?
Either one or the other would need to be renamed.
The benefit of the "emacs" prefix is that it is more self-explanatory.
The benefit of the "etc" prefix is that it feels more "internal" and
makes it clear that these modes are not really intended for general use.
(It is okay to rename `etc-authors-mode' if we want to as no one will
realistically be relying on it for serious work.)
Thoughts?
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* bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode
2022-08-10 9:47 bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode Stefan Kangas
@ 2022-08-10 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-10 12:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-08-10 11:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2022-08-10 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: 57105
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 02:47:05 -0700
>
> Severity: wishlist
>
> It is kind of unfortunate that emacs-news-mode and etc-authors-mode
> don't share the same prefix. Could we change them to use the same one?
> Either one or the other would need to be renamed.
>
> The benefit of the "emacs" prefix is that it is more self-explanatory.
>
> The benefit of the "etc" prefix is that it feels more "internal" and
> makes it clear that these modes are not really intended for general use.
>
> (It is okay to rename `etc-authors-mode' if we want to as no one will
> realistically be relying on it for serious work.)
You want to rename etc-authors-mode to emacs-authors-mode? I'm fine
with that. But in general, unlike NEWS, AUTHORS have very different
structures in different projects, so we shouldn't pretend that the
mode is applicable outside of the Emacs project.
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* bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode
2022-08-10 9:47 bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode Stefan Kangas
2022-08-10 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2022-08-10 11:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-10 12:40 ` Stefan Kangas
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-08-10 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: 57105
Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:
> (It is okay to rename `etc-authors-mode' if we want to as no one will
> realistically be relying on it for serious work.)
Yes, I'm fine with renaming it to emacs-etc-authors-mode (or something
like that).
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* bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode
2022-08-10 11:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-08-10 12:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-08-11 11:51 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2022-08-10 12:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 57105
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Yes, I'm fine with renaming it to emacs-etc-authors-mode (or something
> like that).
That's a good name, thanks.
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* bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode
2022-08-10 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2022-08-10 12:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-08-11 11:52 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2022-08-10 12:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 57105
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> You want to rename etc-authors-mode to emacs-authors-mode? I'm fine
> with that.
Thanks.
> But in general, unlike NEWS, AUTHORS have very different
> structures in different projects, so we shouldn't pretend that the
> mode is applicable outside of the Emacs project.
Agreed (but I'd mostly say the same about `emacs-news-mode').
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* bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode
2022-08-10 12:40 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2022-08-11 11:51 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-11 12:28 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2022-08-11 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, 57105
Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:
> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> Yes, I'm fine with renaming it to emacs-etc-authors-mode (or something
>> like that).
>
> That's a good name, thanks.
Then why isn't emacs-news-mode emacs-etc-news-mode?
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* bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode
2022-08-10 12:40 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2022-08-11 11:52 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-11 12:28 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2022-08-11 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 57105
Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:
> Agreed (but I'd mostly say the same about `emacs-news-mode').
Emacs NEWS files are very similar to that of most other GNU projects, I
think.
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* bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode
2022-08-11 11:52 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2022-08-11 12:28 ` Stefan Kangas
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From: Stefan Kangas @ 2022-08-11 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Po Lu; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 57105
Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:
> Emacs NEWS files are very similar to that of most other GNU projects, I
> think.
I guess you're right, but OTOH GNU projects constitute only a very small
fraction of all free software out there.
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* bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode
2022-08-11 11:51 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2022-08-11 12:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-08-11 12:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2022-08-11 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Po Lu; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, 57105
Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:
> Then why isn't emacs-news-mode emacs-etc-news-mode?
Fair question. Having slept on this, I think I prefer
`emacs-authors-mode' and `emacs-news-mode', to keep it simple.
To me the only point here is that they should share the same prefix.
People will understand that these modes are related to Emacs files given
the "emacs-" prefix, and if they don't they can always read docstrings.
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* bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode
2022-08-11 12:28 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2022-08-11 12:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-12 16:47 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-08-11 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: Po Lu, 57105
Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:
> Fair question. Having slept on this, I think I prefer
> `emacs-authors-mode' and `emacs-news-mode', to keep it simple.
Sounds good to me.
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* bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode
2022-08-11 12:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-08-12 16:47 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2022-08-12 16:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: Po Lu, 57105
close 57105 29.1
thanks
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:
>
>> Fair question. Having slept on this, I think I prefer
>> `emacs-authors-mode' and `emacs-news-mode', to keep it simple.
>
> Sounds good to me.
Thanks, now done on master (commits 4ab16226e0 and 779d920c9a).
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