From: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: arunisaac@systemreboot.net, 58070@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#58070: [PATCH] Add tamil99 input method
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:08:29 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edvzr02i.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y1u7leh9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:23:46 +0300")
[ஞாயிறு செப்டம்பர் 25, 2022] Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
>> Cc: arunisaac@systemreboot.net, 58070@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 19:44:44 +0530
>>
>> [ஞாயிறு செப்டம்பர் 25, 2022] Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>
>> >> AFAIK, MS Windows' tamil99 keyboard layout behaves like mine, whereas
>> >> the ibus layout behaves like your implementation. If you are a heavy
>> >> user of this layout, can you try out the attached?
>> >
>> > Please note that we could have support for both layouts, there's no
>> > particular reason we should have only one.
>>
>> Yes of course but I'm afraid that it will create unneeded confusion,
>> since the differences are quite subtle.
>
> Why do you think it will confuse users to have two input methods, each
> one for one of the layouts? If the supported layout is clearly stated
> in the documentation (or even in the name of the IM), why would it
> confuse?
They are both named "Tamil99", just slightly different implementations.
In that case, how do you propose to name these slightly different
implementations that have a single name---Tamil99? They are identical
majorly in that they both have the same layout but the "special rules"
intended to ease the pain of typing Tamil in a computer are handled
differently.
If you prefer, I can quote the spec and explain the differences between
Windows' and ibus' implementations.
> Please note that we already have several examples where different
> input methods for the same language are offered, one each for every
> keyboard layout we think users could find useful. Is Tamil different
> in some way?
No, Tamil is not any different. But the confusion is caused by the
_implementation detail_. Since the specs is not clear enough [1], you
end up with subtly different implementations of the keyboard layout.
>> So I would prefer the layout which is familiar to most users to get
>> in core.
>
> If one of the layouts comes from Windows, the other from Unix, we are
> likely to have two large groups of users, each one of which is
> familiar with a different layout. Why not offer them both what they
> are familiar with?
Microsoft added the layout in 2018 in Windows 10. I have no idea when
the ibus layout was added. We could offer both, but Someone™ will need
to come up with a clear name.
I hope my stance is now clear.
[1] http://www.tamilvu.org/tkbd/Tamil_Unicode_G.O.zip
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-25 14:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-25 10:00 bug#58070: [PATCH 0/1] Add tamil99 input method Arun Isaac
2022-09-25 10:02 ` bug#58070: [PATCH] " Arun Isaac
2022-09-25 11:38 ` Visuwesh
2022-09-25 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-25 14:14 ` Visuwesh
2022-09-25 14:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-25 14:38 ` Visuwesh [this message]
2022-09-25 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26 20:59 ` Arun Isaac
2022-09-27 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-27 20:34 ` Arun Isaac
2022-09-26 20:55 ` Arun Isaac
2022-09-27 1:49 ` Visuwesh
2022-09-27 2:29 ` Visuwesh
2022-09-27 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-27 7:34 ` Visuwesh
2022-09-27 7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-27 9:24 ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-27 9:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-27 10:11 ` Visuwesh
2022-09-27 20:32 ` Arun Isaac
2022-09-27 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-27 7:52 ` Visuwesh
2022-09-27 8:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-27 10:15 ` Visuwesh
2022-10-12 8:40 ` Arun Isaac
2022-10-12 14:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 8:23 ` Arun Isaac
2022-09-27 20:19 ` Arun Isaac
2022-09-27 20:26 ` Arun Isaac
2022-09-28 2:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-25 10:13 ` bug#58070: [PATCH 0/1] " Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-25 11:16 ` Arun Isaac
2022-10-12 8:41 ` Arun Isaac
2022-10-12 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 8:34 ` Arun Isaac
2022-10-15 9:16 ` bug#58070: [PATCH v2] " Arun Isaac
2022-10-15 14:42 ` bug#58070: [PATCH 0/1] " Visuwesh
2022-10-18 7:11 ` Arun Isaac
2022-10-18 18:00 ` bug#58070: [PATCH v3] " Arun Isaac
2022-10-19 11:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
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