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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: 33567@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#33567: Syntactic fontification of diff hunks
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 00:59:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d0pnnbc6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b55cbf8a-2be9-f6b3-bbd5-2f85e89675a6@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 26 Dec 2018 03:40:46 +0200")

>>> Your proposed new colors for added/removed are the same that are used
>>> GitHub/GitLab, so this should be a good change.  For refine-removed
>>> better to use GitLab's color #ffcccc that is very close to the
>>> color you proposed.  But for refine-added GitLab made the same mistake
>>> that GitHub already fixed.  So the best color for refine-added is #bbffbb.
>>
>> After trying to use there colors, I see that their shade is too subtle.
>> They might look better on large hunks, and I'm not sure why they look ok
>> in the browser, but in Emacs refined colors for small changes are almost
>> not noticeable.  However, please change them if majority agrees.
>
> To my eyes, that's a surprising conclusion.
>
> I wasn't going to argue with your correction to refine-added, even though
> I might prefer a slightly lighter variation (because I end up looking at
> larger refined regions often). Are you now saying that #ffcccc for
> refine-removed (or #d0ffd0, the difference is visible only on large
> regions) and #bbffbb for refine-added are hard for you to notice on
> smaller regions?

I meant that added/removed #eeffee/#ffeeee are harder to notice,
and really only on distant corners of the monitor.  Also looking down
at the LCD screen from a sharp angle can see the inverted colors:
green instead of red, and red instead of green :)

So color choice is not the exact sciences.

> Before we get into deeper discussion (as well as discussing how one finds
> out majority's opinion), I have to ask: did you make sure to use the new
> refined colors with the new diff-added and diff-removed background colors?

Since #eeffee/#ffeeee colors were tested on many users of
GitHub/GitLab, please keep them in diff-mode and also install
the accompanying change of refine-added/refine-removed.

> This is commit a94ac604d8. We can also note that GitHub only refines
> smaller chunks:

GitHub only refines smaller chunks, but refining large chunks often
helps to see real changes with code indentation, e.g. when a let-binding
form is added and thus whitespace of indentation shifts the code block.

> https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/commit/a94ac604d8c9848b0414ade80a1920b345161656,
> so its use of darker backgrounds is more justifiable.
>
> What do you think of the screenshots? Are the small refined regions hard
> for you to see? Or do they look very different in your Emacs?

I think this is fine, I have no problems with refine-added/refine-removed,
please install refine-added/refine-removed as well.





  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-26 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-01 21:55 bug#33567: Syntactic fontification of diff hunks Juri Linkov
2018-12-02  6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-03  0:34   ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-03  6:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-03 23:36       ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-04  7:01         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-04 23:16           ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-05  7:19             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-05 23:25               ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-06  6:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-11  0:38               ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-11  6:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-12  0:28                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-12 17:11                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-03 23:59       ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-04  7:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-04 23:28           ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-05  7:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-05 23:35               ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-12 23:17                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-14  9:13                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-16 23:27                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-17 16:13                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-17 23:11                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-18  0:14                           ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-18 15:55                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-18 22:35                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-18 23:33                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-19  0:11                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-19  0:48                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-19  1:35                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-19 21:49                                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-19 22:50                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-20 22:00                                           ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-24  2:29                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-25 20:35                                               ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-25 21:15                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-26 22:49                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-26 23:16                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-27  0:18                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-27  0:45                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-27  3:34                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-27  3:32                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-19 21:51                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-20  0:11                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-20 21:50                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-20  1:15                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-20 22:17                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-25 20:39                                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-26  1:40                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-26 22:59                                           ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2018-12-26 23:56                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-27 20:39                                               ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-29 23:07                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-30 23:07                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-26  0:43                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-03 11:24     ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-03 23:24       ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-04  0:20         ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-12-04  6:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-04 22:58           ` Juri Linkov

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