* bug#41325: 27.0.91; org-mode key binding conflicts with tab-bar-mode
@ 2020-05-16 14:48 Lars Ljung
2020-05-16 22:59 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ljung @ 2020-05-16 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 41325
Both org-mode and tab-bar-mode use the C-tab key binding. So when
cycling through your tabs with C-tab you will get "stuck" if you switch
to a tab with an org-mode buffer.
I suspect that tab-bar-mode will be quite popular, and org-mode is
already very popular, so I think that it's important that they work well
together.
Personally I think that the keybinding for org-force-cycle-archived
should be replaced. It's much more useful to have a convenient key
binding for switching between tabs.
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* bug#41325: 27.0.91; org-mode key binding conflicts with tab-bar-mode
2020-05-16 14:48 bug#41325: 27.0.91; org-mode key binding conflicts with tab-bar-mode Lars Ljung
@ 2020-05-16 22:59 ` Juri Linkov
2020-05-16 23:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-24 7:25 ` Bastien
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2020-05-16 22:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ljung; +Cc: 41325
> Both org-mode and tab-bar-mode use the C-tab key binding. So when cycling
> through your tabs with C-tab you will get "stuck" if you switch to a tab
> with an org-mode buffer.
>
> I suspect that tab-bar-mode will be quite popular, and org-mode is already
> very popular, so I think that it's important that they work well together.
>
> Personally I think that the keybinding for org-force-cycle-archived should
> be replaced. It's much more useful to have a convenient key binding for
> switching between tabs.
Indeed, it seems C-TAB is a less frequently used keybinding in org-mode,
so it could be disabled by org-mode when tab-bar-mode is active.
Or like proposed in bug#41130 C-TAB could be active only when point is
on an outline heading in org-mode.
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* bug#41325: 27.0.91; org-mode key binding conflicts with tab-bar-mode
2020-05-16 22:59 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2020-05-16 23:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-17 22:06 ` Juri Linkov
2020-05-24 7:25 ` Bastien
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-05-16 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov, Lars Ljung; +Cc: 41325
Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:
> Indeed, it seems C-TAB is a less frequently used keybinding in org-mode,
> so it could be disabled by org-mode when tab-bar-mode is active.
Personally, I never use it. But it's likely that other users will have
a very different experience.
Maybe we should contact the org-mode developers to hear what they think
about changing the key binding?
> Or like proposed in bug#41130 C-TAB could be active only when point is
> on an outline heading in org-mode.
That risks being very disruptive for any user in this situation:
a) Heavy org-mode user.
b) Heavy tab-bar-mode user.
c) Almost never uses C-TAB in org-mode.
I wouldn't expect that scenario to be all that uncommon.
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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* bug#41325: 27.0.91; org-mode key binding conflicts with tab-bar-mode
2020-05-16 23:57 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2020-05-17 22:06 ` Juri Linkov
2020-05-24 7:28 ` Bastien
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2020-05-17 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: 41325, Lars Ljung
>> Indeed, it seems C-TAB is a less frequently used keybinding in org-mode,
>> so it could be disabled by org-mode when tab-bar-mode is active.
>
> Personally, I never use it. But it's likely that other users will have
> a very different experience.
>
> Maybe we should contact the org-mode developers to hear what they think
> about changing the key binding?
I thought that org-mode developers read this bug list?
>> Or like proposed in bug#41130 C-TAB could be active only when point is
>> on an outline heading in org-mode.
>
> That risks being very disruptive for any user in this situation:
> a) Heavy org-mode user.
> b) Heavy tab-bar-mode user.
> c) Almost never uses C-TAB in org-mode.
>
> I wouldn't expect that scenario to be all that uncommon.
I agree.
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* bug#41325: 27.0.91; org-mode key binding conflicts with tab-bar-mode
2020-05-16 22:59 ` Juri Linkov
2020-05-16 23:57 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2020-05-24 7:25 ` Bastien
2020-08-24 0:37 ` Stefan Kangas
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From: Bastien @ 2020-05-24 7:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: 41325, Lars Ljung
Hi,
Thanks for the report, this should indeed be fixed.
I suggest that Org binds C-M-TAB instead of C-TAB.
I will bring this suggestion to the orgmode list.
--
Bastien
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* bug#41325: 27.0.91; org-mode key binding conflicts with tab-bar-mode
2020-05-17 22:06 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2020-05-24 7:28 ` Bastien
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2020-05-24 7:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: 41325, Lars Ljung, Stefan Kangas
Hi Juri,
Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:
>>> Indeed, it seems C-TAB is a less frequently used keybinding in org-mode,
>>> so it could be disabled by org-mode when tab-bar-mode is active.
>>
>> Personally, I never use it. But it's likely that other users will have
>> a very different experience.
>>
>> Maybe we should contact the org-mode developers to hear what they think
>> about changing the key binding?
>
> I thought that org-mode developers read this bug list?
FWIW, I do read this list in my free time. If something requires an
urgent attention, don't hesitate to CC my email address of course.
Thanks,
--
Bastien
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* bug#41325: 27.0.91; org-mode key binding conflicts with tab-bar-mode
2020-05-24 7:25 ` Bastien
@ 2020-08-24 0:37 ` Stefan Kangas
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From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-08-24 0:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: 41325, Lars Ljung, Juri Linkov
Hi Bastien,
Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the report, this should indeed be fixed.
>
> I suggest that Org binds C-M-TAB instead of C-TAB.
>
> I will bring this suggestion to the orgmode list.
(That was 13 weeks ago.)
Did you find any resolution to this problem? Will you rebind the key?
Thanks.
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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* bug#41325: 27.0.91; org-mode key binding conflicts with tab-bar-mode
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@ 2020-09-04 16:03 ` Bastien
2020-09-04 16:34 ` Stefan Kangas
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From: Bastien @ 2020-09-04 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: 41325, Lars Ljung, Juri Linkov
Hi Stefan,
Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:
> Did you find any resolution to this problem? Will you rebind the
> key?
Yes, the new binding is C-c C-TAB since June in Org master branch.
See https://orgmode.org/list/87367f7xax.fsf@bzg.fr/
FWIW, since it's a breaking change, it is also listed here:
https://updates.orgmode.org
Best,
--
Bastien
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* bug#41325: 27.0.91; org-mode key binding conflicts with tab-bar-mode
2020-09-04 16:03 ` Bastien
@ 2020-09-04 16:34 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-09-04 16:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: 41325, Lars Ljung, Juri Linkov
close 41325 28.1
thanks
Hi Bastien,
Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
>> Did you find any resolution to this problem? Will you rebind the
>> key?
>
> Yes, the new binding is C-c C-TAB since June in Org master branch.
OK, thanks for reporting back.
Users bothered by this should presumably either install a recent version
of Org mode or wait until it is packaged and released with Emacs 28.
I'm therefore closing the Emacs bug now.
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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