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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
@ 2016-03-22 17:37 N. Jackson
  2016-03-22 18:47 ` martin rudalics
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: N. Jackson @ 2016-03-22 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 23093

In Emacs 24 when using completion in the minibuffer, when the frame is
sufficiently wide it is split vertically (into side-by-side windows)
with the completions in the window on the right.

There seems to have been an (undocumented?) behaviour change -- now when
using completion in the minibuffer the frame seems always to be split
horizontally (into above-and-below windows) with the completions in the
lower window.

This change does not seem to me to be an improvement, as now far fewer
of the available completions are visible at once.

I suppose whether a "portrait" or "landscape" completions window is
better probably depends on the number and length of the completions and
also on the user's frame size, so presumably the splitting behaviour
should be a user option.

As long as the option is available and documented, I have no opinion on
the default, although it would seem more compatible to make it default
to the old behaviour.


In GNU Emacs 25.0.92.3 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)
 of 2016-03-21 built on moondust
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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-22 17:37 bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right N. Jackson
@ 2016-03-22 18:47 ` martin rudalics
  2016-03-22 19:02   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2016-03-22 19:45   ` N. Jackson
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2016-03-22 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: N. Jackson, 23093

 > In Emacs 24 when using completion in the minibuffer, when the frame is
 > sufficiently wide it is split vertically (into side-by-side windows)
 > with the completions in the window on the right.
 >
 > There seems to have been an (undocumented?) behaviour change -- now when
 > using completion in the minibuffer the frame seems always to be split
 > horizontally (into above-and-below windows) with the completions in the
 > lower window.
 >
 > This change does not seem to me to be an improvement, as now far fewer
 > of the available completions are visible at once.

Customizing ‘temp-buffer-max-height’ would fix that.

 > I suppose whether a "portrait" or "landscape" completions window is
 > better probably depends on the number and length of the completions and
 > also on the user's frame size, so presumably the splitting behaviour
 > should be a user option.

It is.  Please customize ‘display-buffer-alist’ for the buffer named
*Completions*.

 > As long as the option is available and documented, I have no opinion on
 > the default, although it would seem more compatible to make it default
 > to the old behaviour.

martin






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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-22 18:47 ` martin rudalics
@ 2016-03-22 19:02   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2016-03-23  8:09     ` martin rudalics
  2016-03-22 19:45   ` N. Jackson
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-03-22 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 23093, nljlistbox2

> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:47:06 +0100
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> 
>  > There seems to have been an (undocumented?) behaviour change -- now when
>  > using completion in the minibuffer the frame seems always to be split
>  > horizontally (into above-and-below windows) with the completions in the
>  > lower window.
>  >
>  > This change does not seem to me to be an improvement, as now far fewer
>  > of the available completions are visible at once.
> 
> Customizing ‘temp-buffer-max-height’ would fix that.
> 
>  > I suppose whether a "portrait" or "landscape" completions window is
>  > better probably depends on the number and length of the completions and
>  > also on the user's frame size, so presumably the splitting behaviour
>  > should be a user option.
> 
> It is.  Please customize ‘display-buffer-alist’ for the buffer named
> *Completions*.

Hmm... I see neither temp-buffer-resize-mode nor
temp-buffer-max-height are documented in the manual.  Would you please
add them (and maybe also discuss how to customize display-buffer-alist
for the *Completions* buffer)?  I expect other users to bump into
these issues.

TIA





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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-22 18:47 ` martin rudalics
  2016-03-22 19:02   ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2016-03-22 19:45   ` N. Jackson
  2016-03-23  8:09     ` martin rudalics
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: N. Jackson @ 2016-03-22 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 23093

Hi Martin,

At 19:47 +0100 on Tuesday 2016-03-22, martin rudalics wrote:

>> This change does not seem to me to be an improvement, as now far fewer
>> of the available completions are visible at once.
>
> Customizing ‘temp-buffer-max-height’ would fix that.

That seems a rather terrifying customization given that the current
value of `temp-buffer-max-height' is:

    (lambda
      (buffer)
      (if
          (and
           (display-graphic-p)
           (eq
            (selected-window)
            (frame-root-window)))
          (/
           (x-display-pixel-height)
           (frame-char-height)
           2)
        (/
         (-
          (frame-height)
          2)
         2)))

>> I suppose whether a "portrait" or "landscape" completions window is
>> better probably depends on the number and length of the completions and
>> also on the user's frame size, so presumably the splitting behaviour
>> should be a user option.
>
> It is.  Please customize ‘display-buffer-alist’ for the buffer named
> *Completions*.

This also doesn't seem a trivial customization; it involves alists of
alists, cons cells, regular expressions, functions.

This seems to be rather a lot to ask of the user just so they can get
back the Emacs 24 behaviour.

Instead, I was thinking more along the lines of a simple Boolean
variable called something like completions-window-prefer-split-right
with a default value of non-`nil' to give the old behaviour, and `nil'
would give the behaviour we're currently seeing in Emacs 25.






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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-22 19:02   ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2016-03-23  8:09     ` martin rudalics
  2016-03-23 15:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2016-03-23  8:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 23093, nljlistbox2

 > Hmm... I see neither temp-buffer-resize-mode nor
 > temp-buffer-max-height are documented in the manual.

Both are documented in section 37.8 "Temporary Displays" of the Elisp
manual.  Do you mean they should be documented in the Emacs manual too?
If so, where?

 > Would you please
 > add them (and maybe also discuss how to customize display-buffer-alist
 > for the *Completions* buffer)?  I expect other users to bump into
 > these issues.

Again, please tell me where.

Thanks, martin





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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-22 19:45   ` N. Jackson
@ 2016-03-23  8:09     ` martin rudalics
  2016-03-23 21:35       ` Juri Linkov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2016-03-23  8:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: N. Jackson; +Cc: 23093

 >> Customizing ‘temp-buffer-max-height’ would fix that.
 >
 > That seems a rather terrifying customization given that the current
 > value of `temp-buffer-max-height' is:
 >
 >      (lambda
[...]

Since you know your display and how you use it, it should be easy for
you to enter a plain integer in the customizations buffer instead.

 >> It is.  Please customize ‘display-buffer-alist’ for the buffer named
 >> *Completions*.
 >
 > This also doesn't seem a trivial customization; it involves alists of
 > alists, cons cells, regular expressions, functions.

I'm afraid this is a hurdle you'll eventually have to deal with anyway.
‘display-buffer-alist’ is now essential for too many applications.  I've
never been fond of it (as you can find out from some very vivid early
discussions) but meanwhile have learned to live with it as well.

 > This seems to be rather a lot to ask of the user just so they can get
 > back the Emacs 24 behaviour.
 >
 > Instead, I was thinking more along the lines of a simple Boolean
 > variable called something like completions-window-prefer-split-right
 > with a default value of non-`nil' to give the old behaviour, and `nil'
 > would give the behaviour we're currently seeing in Emacs 25.

Maybe Juri can help you here.  I'll add him to the recipients.

martin






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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-23  8:09     ` martin rudalics
@ 2016-03-23 15:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
  2016-03-23 18:53         ` martin rudalics
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-03-23 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 23093, nljlistbox2

> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:09:23 +0100
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> CC: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 23093@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  > Hmm... I see neither temp-buffer-resize-mode nor
>  > temp-buffer-max-height are documented in the manual.
> 
> Both are documented in section 37.8 "Temporary Displays" of the Elisp
> manual.  Do you mean they should be documented in the Emacs manual too?

Yes, I meant the user manual.  These are user-level features.

> If so, where?

"Displaying Buffers" sounds like a good place.  Maybe add a new
subsection there, which talks specifically about temporary pop-up
buffers.

Thanks.





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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-23 15:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2016-03-23 18:53         ` martin rudalics
  2016-03-23 19:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
  2016-03-23 20:17           ` N. Jackson
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2016-03-23 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 23093, nljlistbox2

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 > "Displaying Buffers" sounds like a good place.  Maybe add a new
 > subsection there, which talks specifically about temporary pop-up
 > buffers.

Please have a look at the attached patch.

martin

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diff --git a/doc/emacs/emacs.texi b/doc/emacs/emacs.texi
index dc99d49..c23c96f 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/emacs.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/emacs.texi
@@ -519,6 +519,7 @@ Top
 * Pop Up Window::       Finding a file or buffer in another window.
 * Change Window::       Deleting windows and changing their sizes.
 * Displaying Buffers::  How Emacs picks a window for displaying a buffer.
+* Temporary Displays::  Displaying non-editable buffers.
 * Window Convenience::  Convenience functions for window handling.

 Displaying a Buffer in a Window
diff --git a/doc/emacs/windows.texi b/doc/emacs/windows.texi
index f99234b..0bec3d3 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/windows.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/windows.texi
@@ -374,6 +374,7 @@ Displaying Buffers

 @menu
 * Window Choice::   How @code{display-buffer} works.
+* Temporary Displays::   Displaying non-editable buffers.
 @end menu

 @node Window Choice
@@ -411,15 +412,15 @@ Window Choice
 @code{graphic-only} means to do this only on graphical displays.

 @item
-Otherwise, try to create a new window by splitting the selected
-window, and display the buffer in that new window.
+Otherwise, try to create a new window by splitting a window on the
+selected frame, and display the buffer in that new window.

 @vindex split-height-threshold
 @vindex split-width-threshold
 The split can be either vertical or horizontal, depending on the
 variables @code{split-height-threshold} and
 @code{split-width-threshold}.  These variables should have integer
-values.  If @code{split-height-threshold} is smaller than the selected
+values.  If @code{split-height-threshold} is smaller than the chosen
 window's height, the split puts the new window below.  Otherwise, if
 @code{split-width-threshold} is smaller than the window's width, the
 split puts the new window on the right.  If neither condition holds,
@@ -427,6 +428,12 @@ Window Choice
 window was not split before (to avoid excessive splitting).

 @item
+Otherwise, display the buffer in a window previously showing it.
+Normally, only windows on the selected frame are considered, but if
+@code{pop-up-frames} is non-@code{nil} the window may be also on another
+frame.
+
+@item
 Otherwise, display the buffer in an existing window on the selected
 frame.

@@ -435,6 +442,58 @@ Window Choice
 and display the buffer there.
 @end itemize

+A more advanced and flexible way to customize the behavior of
+@code{display-buffer} is by using the option @code{display-buffer-alist}
+mentioned in the next section.
+
+
+@node Temporary Displays
+@subsection Displaying non-editable buffers.
+
+Some buffers are shown in windows for perusal rather than for editing.
+Help commands (@pxref{Help}) typically use a buffer called @file{*Help*}
+for that purpose, minibuffer completion (@pxref{Completion}) uses a
+buffer called @file{*Completions*} instead.  Such buffers are usually
+displayed for a short period of time.
+
+   Normally, Emacs chooses the window for temporary displays via
+@code{display-buffer} as described above.  The @file{*Completions*}
+buffer, on the other hand, is preferably displayed in a window at the
+bottom of the selected frame, regardless of the number of windows
+already shown on that frame.
+
+   If you prefer Emacs to display a temporary buffer in a different
+fashion, the recommended approach is to customize the variable
+@code{display-buffer-alist} (@pxref{Choosing Window,,Choosing a Window
+for Display, elisp, The Emacs Lisp Reference Manual}).  For example, to
+display @file{*Completions*} by splitting a window as described in the
+previous section, use the following form in your initialization file
+(@pxref{Init File}):
+
+@example
+@group
+(customize-set-variable
+ 'display-buffer-alist
+ '(("\\*Completions\\*" display-buffer-pop-up-window)))
+@end group
+@end example
+
+   The @file{*Completions*} buffer is also special in the sense that
+Emacs usually tries to make its window just as large to display all of
+its contents.  Once sized this way, the size of that window can only
+shrink.  If you want to make sure that the window is always large enough
+to show the entire contents of the buffer invoke the minor mode
+(@pxref{Minor Modes}) @code{temp-buffer-resize-mode} (@pxref{Temporary
+Displays,,Temporary Displays, elisp, The Emacs Lisp Reference Manual}).
+
+   When @code{temp-buffer-resize-mode} is enabled, it will try to fit
+all temporary displays including, for example, the @file{*Help*} buffer.
+The maximum size of such windows can be controlled by customizing the
+options @code{temp-buffer-max-height} and @code{temp-buffer-max-width}
+(@pxref{Temporary Displays,,Temporary Displays, elisp, The Emacs Lisp
+Reference Manual}) and cannot exceed the size of the containing frame.
+
+
 @node Window Convenience
 @section Convenience Features for Window Handling



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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-23 18:53         ` martin rudalics
@ 2016-03-23 19:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
  2016-03-23 20:17           ` N. Jackson
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-03-23 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 23093, nljlistbox2

> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:53:49 +0100
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> CC: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 23093@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  > "Displaying Buffers" sounds like a good place.  Maybe add a new
>  > subsection there, which talks specifically about temporary pop-up
>  > buffers.
> 
> Please have a look at the attached patch.

Looks good to me, thank.





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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-23 18:53         ` martin rudalics
  2016-03-23 19:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2016-03-23 20:17           ` N. Jackson
  2016-03-24  7:42             ` martin rudalics
  2016-03-25  7:42             ` martin rudalics
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: N. Jackson @ 2016-03-23 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 23093

At 19:53 +0100 on Wednesday 2016-03-23, martin rudalics wrote:
>
> Please have a look at the attached patch.

Hello Martin,

I like your doc patch; it makes the behaviour clear.

In particular the snippet of code it provides, viz.

    (customize-set-variable
     'display-buffer-alist
     '(("\\*Completions\\*" display-buffer-pop-up-window)))

works like a charm to get back the Emacs 24 behaviour that I seem to
prefer at the moment. Thank you very much!

Sorry to be suggesting more work, but I think a brief entry about the
new *Completions* buffer display behaviour should go in NEWS, referring
the reader to your new node in the manual for details and for
information on how to restore the former behaviour.

Regards,
N.






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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-23  8:09     ` martin rudalics
@ 2016-03-23 21:35       ` Juri Linkov
  2016-03-24  7:43         ` martin rudalics
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2016-03-23 21:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 23093, N. Jackson

>> Instead, I was thinking more along the lines of a simple Boolean
>> variable called something like completions-window-prefer-split-right
>> with a default value of non-`nil' to give the old behaviour, and `nil'
>> would give the behaviour we're currently seeing in Emacs 25.
>
> Maybe Juri can help you here.  I'll add him to the recipients.

Before adding a new defcustom variable, could we try to make the
behavior more DWIM and automatically detect a window configuration
where displaying *Completions* side-by-side makes more sense like
in frames with 48-characters height and 2*80-characters width.

Is it possible to tune ‘temp-buffer-max-height’ to handle this?
Or maybe we need to add new conditional actions like
‘display-buffer-below-selected-if-high-enough’ or
‘display-buffer-in-right-window-if-height-is-narrow’ or?





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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-23 20:17           ` N. Jackson
@ 2016-03-24  7:42             ` martin rudalics
  2016-03-25  7:42             ` martin rudalics
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2016-03-24  7:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: N. Jackson; +Cc: 23093

 > Sorry to be suggesting more work, but I think a brief entry about the
 > new *Completions* buffer display behaviour should go in NEWS, referring
 > the reader to your new node in the manual for details and for
 > information on how to restore the former behaviour.

We'll do that once we have decided what to do ;-)

martin





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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-23 21:35       ` Juri Linkov
@ 2016-03-24  7:43         ` martin rudalics
  2016-03-24 22:16           ` Juri Linkov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2016-03-24  7:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: 23093, N. Jackson

 > Before adding a new defcustom variable, could we try to make the
 > behavior more DWIM and automatically detect a window configuration
 > where displaying *Completions* side-by-side makes more sense like
 > in frames with 48-characters height and 2*80-characters width.

IIUC the current scheme pretty well handles the case where multiple
windows are already present when completion is attempted.  And IIRC we
also wanted the *Completions* window appear near the echo area.  Doing
both of these for side-by-side windows seems pretty contrived.  I think
that describing an alternative ‘display-buffer-alist’ spec in the manual
should be sufficient.

 > Is it possible to tune ‘temp-buffer-max-height’ to handle this?

‘temp-buffer-max-height’ is effective only if ‘temp-buffer-resize-mode’
is enabled.  ‘temp-buffer-resize-mode’ is not enabled by default.

 > Or maybe we need to add new conditional actions like
 > ‘display-buffer-below-selected-if-high-enough’ or
 > ‘display-buffer-in-right-window-if-height-is-narrow’ or?

Rather not.  In some sense we do the former already although IIUC we
never consult the number of completions before splitting off the window.
The latter looks like a special form of ‘split-window-sensibly’ with all
its problems.

martin






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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-24  7:43         ` martin rudalics
@ 2016-03-24 22:16           ` Juri Linkov
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2016-03-24 22:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 23093, N. Jackson

>> Or maybe we need to add new conditional actions like
>> ‘display-buffer-below-selected-if-high-enough’ or
>> ‘display-buffer-in-right-window-if-height-is-narrow’ or?
>
> Rather not.  In some sense we do the former already although IIUC we
> never consult the number of completions before splitting off the window.

This is more complex logic: if the number of completions is small,
always display completions at the bottom, otherwise decide how
to split window depending on window configuration like in
‘split-window-sensibly’ you mentioned below.

> The latter looks like a special form of ‘split-window-sensibly’ with all
> its problems.





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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-23 20:17           ` N. Jackson
  2016-03-24  7:42             ` martin rudalics
@ 2016-03-25  7:42             ` martin rudalics
  2016-03-25  8:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2016-03-25  7:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: N. Jackson; +Cc: 23093

 > Sorry to be suggesting more work, but I think a brief entry about the
 > new *Completions* buffer display behaviour should go in NEWS, referring
 > the reader to your new node in the manual for details and for
 > information on how to restore the former behaviour.

Should be done now.  Please have a look.

Thanks, martin





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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-25  7:42             ` martin rudalics
@ 2016-03-25  8:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
  2016-03-25  8:37                 ` martin rudalics
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-03-25  8:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 23093, nljlistbox2

> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 08:42:33 +0100
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> CC: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 23093@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  > Sorry to be suggesting more work, but I think a brief entry about the
>  > new *Completions* buffer display behaviour should go in NEWS, referring
>  > the reader to your new node in the manual for details and for
>  > information on how to restore the former behaviour.
> 
> Should be done now.  Please have a look.

Thanks.  However, I have a difficulty understanding this part of the
NEWS entry:

  *** The minibuffer completions window is now displayed at the bottom of
  the selected frame and always fit to its buffer.

There are 2 unclear aspects here: (a) who is "it" in "its buffer", and
(b) what does "fit to" mean.

Does the following rewording convey the same ideas?

  *** The window displaying the '*Completions*' buffer with minibuffer
  completion candidates is now shown at the bottom of the selected
  frame.  The size of that window is always as large as required to
  display all the candidates, except when limited by the minimum size
  of the other windows on that frame; those other windows are resized
  to provide space for the '*Completions*' display.





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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-25  8:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2016-03-25  8:37                 ` martin rudalics
  2016-03-25 10:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2016-03-25  8:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 23093, nljlistbox2

 > Thanks.  However, I have a difficulty understanding this part of the
 > NEWS entry:
 >
 >    *** The minibuffer completions window is now displayed at the bottom of
 >    the selected frame and always fit to its buffer.
 >
 > There are 2 unclear aspects here: (a) who is "it" in "its buffer", and
 > (b) what does "fit to" mean.
 >
 > Does the following rewording convey the same ideas?
 >
 >    *** The window displaying the '*Completions*' buffer with minibuffer
 >    completion candidates is now shown at the bottom of the selected
 >    frame.  The size of that window is always as large as required to
 >    display all the candidates, except when limited by the minimum size
 >    of the other windows on that frame; those other windows are resized
 >    to provide space for the '*Completions*' display.

It does so.  If necessary, please reword the manual text as well.

Thanks, martin





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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-25  8:37                 ` martin rudalics
@ 2016-03-25 10:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2020-08-24 18:21                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-03-25 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 23093, nljlistbox2

> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:37:43 +0100
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> CC: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 23093@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  > Thanks.  However, I have a difficulty understanding this part of the
>  > NEWS entry:
>  >
>  >    *** The minibuffer completions window is now displayed at the bottom of
>  >    the selected frame and always fit to its buffer.
>  >
>  > There are 2 unclear aspects here: (a) who is "it" in "its buffer", and
>  > (b) what does "fit to" mean.
>  >
>  > Does the following rewording convey the same ideas?
>  >
>  >    *** The window displaying the '*Completions*' buffer with minibuffer
>  >    completion candidates is now shown at the bottom of the selected
>  >    frame.  The size of that window is always as large as required to
>  >    display all the candidates, except when limited by the minimum size
>  >    of the other windows on that frame; those other windows are resized
>  >    to provide space for the '*Completions*' display.
> 
> It does so.  If necessary, please reword the manual text as well.

Done, thanks.





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* bug#23093: 25.0.92; Change for the worse: minibuffer completion window splits below rather that right
  2016-03-25 10:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-08-24 18:21                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-08-24 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 23093, nljlistbox2

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> It does so.  If necessary, please reword the manual text as well.
>
> Done, thanks.

If I'm reading this thread correctly, the bug discussed here was fixed
(by adding a lot of documentation), so I'm closing this bug report.  If
there's anything more to be worked on here, please send a mail to the
debbugs address and we'll reopen the bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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2016-03-22 18:47 ` martin rudalics
2016-03-22 19:02   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-23  8:09     ` martin rudalics
2016-03-23 15:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-23 18:53         ` martin rudalics
2016-03-23 19:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-23 20:17           ` N. Jackson
2016-03-24  7:42             ` martin rudalics
2016-03-25  7:42             ` martin rudalics
2016-03-25  8:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-25  8:37                 ` martin rudalics
2016-03-25 10:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-24 18:21                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-22 19:45   ` N. Jackson
2016-03-23  8:09     ` martin rudalics
2016-03-23 21:35       ` Juri Linkov
2016-03-24  7:43         ` martin rudalics
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