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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>, 32825@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#32825: 27.0.50; Deterministic window management
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:23:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bm6ntjuk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5BEE8587.9090702@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 16 Nov 2018 09:53:27 +0100")

>> The need to skip.  If the original window was too small
>> to split and display the buffer in a new window below, then
>> if some existing window is reused to display the temporary buffer,
>> it's understandable for the user why that temporary buffer is shown
>> in the window-local tab-bar.
>>
>> At least, then the user will see in which window the same buffer
>> will be reappear again - in the same window that shows this buffer
>> in its window-local tab-bar.
>
> The latter is a visual feedback.  But if I blindly use C-x left, I'd
> still be surprised.

Then maybe better to add such buffers to the end of the prev-buffers list
or to the end of the next-buffers list.

>> The second time when the buffer is displayed again in a previous window
>> is deterministic.  But the first time it is non-deterministic - it's
>> displayed in a random window.  At least, the user can't predict the
>> window where it will be displayed - thus the surprise factor.
>> With get-mru-window instead get-lru-window the place is more
>> deterministic because the user usually remembers which window is mru.
>
> We can add an action alist entry to get the mru (or better
> mru-not-selected) behavior.  A small deal.

This would be very nice, thanks in advance.

>> When I create three windows or more, then get-lru-window always
>> selects a wrong window.  Is it possible to change get-lru-window to
>> get-mru-window to allow using three windows and more on the
>> same frame?
>
> Earlier we discussed whether "creating a window" should also mean
> "using that window".  This could be yet another action alist entry -
> bump the use time of the window used for displaying a buffer even when
> it's not selected.

It seems the logic in most cases doesn't depend on creation time,
only on usage time like in mru.

> Something I notoriously forget in all my answers: Note that you need
> not add an action function in 'display-buffer-overriding-action' and
> friends.  Adding an action alist entry can often be sufficient to
> affect the remaining functions in the desired fashion.  I suppose you
> knew that already, but just in case ...

I don't understand what an alist entry you mean.  Or you mean adding
a new alist entry like (default-window . mru-not-selected)?





  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-17 22:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-24 18:59 bug#32825: 27.0.50; Deterministic window management Juri Linkov
2018-09-25  7:28 ` martin rudalics
2018-09-25 12:34   ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-09-25 17:56     ` martin rudalics
2018-09-25 18:29       ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-09-26  8:50         ` martin rudalics
2018-09-26 23:23         ` Juri Linkov
2018-09-27 18:45           ` martin rudalics
2018-09-26 23:19       ` Juri Linkov
2018-09-27 11:31         ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-25 19:33           ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-25 20:00             ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-27 20:14               ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-27 20:28                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-27 20:59                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-27 21:21                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-27 21:34                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-27 22:02                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-28  9:06                           ` martin rudalics
2018-10-28 19:02                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-29  8:43                               ` martin rudalics
2018-10-29 22:47                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-30 21:18                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-31  8:10                               ` martin rudalics
2018-10-31 21:10                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-01  9:01                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-11-01 22:27                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-02  8:43                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-11-04  0:27                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-04  9:07                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-11-04 21:33                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-05  9:34                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-11-05 21:49                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-06  8:46                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-11-06 22:13                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-07  9:23                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-11-07 21:50                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-08  8:53                                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-11-08 21:58                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-09  9:13                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-11-09 10:17                                                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-11-09 12:51                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-11-10 21:53                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-11  8:53                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-11-11 20:13                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-12  8:45                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-11-12 23:39                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-13  0:29                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-13  9:12                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2018-11-13 23:29                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-14  8:33                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2018-11-14 23:52                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-15  9:12                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2018-11-15 21:43                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-16  8:53                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2018-11-16 12:57                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-11-17 22:23                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2018-11-18  9:24                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2018-11-18 23:01                                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-19  9:43                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
     [not found]                                                                                                       ` <87h8gcy95d.fsf@mail.linkov.net>
2018-11-20  9:32                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2018-11-21  0:16                                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-21  8:19                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2018-11-21 23:54                                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-22  7:41                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2018-11-13  9:09                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-11-04  9:36                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-11-04 21:35                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-05  9:34                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-11-05 21:56                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-06  8:46                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-11-06 22:08                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-07  9:23                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-11-07 21:55                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-08  8:53                                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-11-08 22:09                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-09  9:13                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-11-10 21:39                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-11  8:52                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-11-11 20:09                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-12  8:36                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-11-12 23:40                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-13  9:09                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-11-13 23:44                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-14  8:33                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-12-03 23:07                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-04  8:32                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-12-04 22:24                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-05  9:15                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-12-05 18:55                                                 ` martin rudalics
2018-12-06  0:04                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-06  9:09                                                     ` martin rudalics
2018-12-06 23:31                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-08  9:41                                                         ` martin rudalics
2018-12-08  9:41                                                     ` martin rudalics
2018-12-08 23:40                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-09  8:25                                                         ` martin rudalics
2018-12-10  0:17                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-10  1:01                                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-12-11  0:07                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-11  1:08                                                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-12-11  8:34                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-12-20 23:57                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-21  9:15                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-12-22 23:45                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-23  9:41                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-12-23 23:32                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-24  8:14                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-12-25 21:16                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-26  9:41                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-12-27  0:10                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-27  9:37                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-09-27 18:44         ` martin rudalics
2018-09-27 22:47           ` Juri Linkov
2018-09-30  8:00             ` martin rudalics
2018-09-30 11:40               ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-09-30 12:22                 ` martin rudalics
2018-09-30 12:32                   ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-30 12:43                     ` martin rudalics
2018-09-30 13:04                       ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-30 13:38                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-09-30 21:26                           ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-30 23:33                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-01  8:36                           ` martin rudalics
2018-10-01 13:18                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-01 15:07                               ` martin rudalics
2018-10-01 18:10                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-02  7:38                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-10-02 13:24                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-01 13:05                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-01 13:14                     ` Noam Postavsky
2018-10-01 15:06                       ` martin rudalics
2022-04-30 14:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-30 14:54   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-01 17:00     ` Juri Linkov

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