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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: 32825@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>,
	Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: bug#32825: 27.0.50; Deterministic window management
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2018 09:38:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5BB32091.6090204@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pnwttu5c.fsf@web.de>

 >> (push '("*Backtrace*" (display-buffer-reuse-window
 >> display-buffer-pop-up-frame) (reusable-frames . t))
 >>        display-buffer-alist)
 >
 > What I meant was "always use a special, but always one and the same
 > frame".

Users have all possible freedom in this regard.  Your "always use a
special, but always one and the same frame" would have to be specified
more precisely but there is no reason it cannot be done.  For example,
users who want to use a dedicated frame for that purpose can write
their own 'my-display-backtrace' function which creates that frame if
necessary, remembers it in a variable of their choice, and reuses it -
from that variable - in a later invocation.

 > The 'reusable-frame' association in your 'display-buffer-alist'
 > entry doesn't accomplish that, because when pop-to-buffer is called, the
 > *Backtrace* buffer is typically not shown anymore at that moment in that
 > frame.

Users who want to leave the initial choice of the window to 'debug'
and only chime in later can use 'debugger-previous-window' and
'debugger-pre-previous-window' in their customizations.

I'm afraid that yours is yet another example of how difficult it is to
customize 'display-buffer-alist'.  Back then, I warned Stefan and
Chong that this would happen.  But they argumented with the greater
flexibility of the action functions/action alist approach.  So once
more: 'display-buffer-alist' allows you to do virtually everything and
thus override and reuse anything 'debug' does.  But it might not be
intuitive to do that and sometimes requires to read the code of the
invoker of 'display-buffer' ('debug' in this case) in order to play
along with that.

martin





  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-02  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-24 18:59 bug#32825: 27.0.50; Deterministic window management Juri Linkov
2018-09-25  7:28 ` martin rudalics
2018-09-25 12:34   ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-09-25 17:56     ` martin rudalics
2018-09-25 18:29       ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-09-26  8:50         ` martin rudalics
2018-09-26 23:23         ` Juri Linkov
2018-09-27 18:45           ` martin rudalics
2018-09-26 23:19       ` Juri Linkov
2018-09-27 11:31         ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-25 19:33           ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-25 20:00             ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-27 20:14               ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-27 20:28                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-27 20:59                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-27 21:21                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-27 21:34                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-27 22:02                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-28  9:06                           ` martin rudalics
2018-10-28 19:02                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-29  8:43                               ` martin rudalics
2018-10-29 22:47                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-30 21:18                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-31  8:10                               ` martin rudalics
2018-10-31 21:10                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-01  9:01                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-11-01 22:27                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-02  8:43                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-11-04  0:27                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-04  9:07                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-11-04 21:33                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-05  9:34                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-11-05 21:49                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-06  8:46                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-11-06 22:13                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-07  9:23                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-11-07 21:50                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-08  8:53                                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-11-08 21:58                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-09  9:13                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-11-09 10:17                                                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-11-09 12:51                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-11-10 21:53                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-11  8:53                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-11-11 20:13                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-12  8:45                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-11-12 23:39                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-13  0:29                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-13  9:12                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2018-11-13 23:29                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-14  8:33                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2018-11-14 23:52                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-15  9:12                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2018-11-15 21:43                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-16  8:53                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2018-11-16 12:57                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-11-17 22:23                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-18  9:24                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2018-11-18 23:01                                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-19  9:43                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
     [not found]                                                                                                       ` <87h8gcy95d.fsf@mail.linkov.net>
2018-11-20  9:32                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2018-11-21  0:16                                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-21  8:19                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2018-11-21 23:54                                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-22  7:41                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2018-11-13  9:09                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-11-04  9:36                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-11-04 21:35                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-05  9:34                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-11-05 21:56                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-06  8:46                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-11-06 22:08                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-07  9:23                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-11-07 21:55                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-08  8:53                                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-11-08 22:09                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-09  9:13                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-11-10 21:39                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-11  8:52                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-11-11 20:09                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-12  8:36                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-11-12 23:40                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-13  9:09                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-11-13 23:44                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-14  8:33                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-12-03 23:07                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-04  8:32                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-12-04 22:24                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-05  9:15                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-12-05 18:55                                                 ` martin rudalics
2018-12-06  0:04                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-06  9:09                                                     ` martin rudalics
2018-12-06 23:31                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-08  9:41                                                         ` martin rudalics
2018-12-08  9:41                                                     ` martin rudalics
2018-12-08 23:40                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-09  8:25                                                         ` martin rudalics
2018-12-10  0:17                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-10  1:01                                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-12-11  0:07                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-11  1:08                                                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-12-11  8:34                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-12-20 23:57                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-21  9:15                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-12-22 23:45                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-23  9:41                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-12-23 23:32                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-24  8:14                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-12-25 21:16                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-26  9:41                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-12-27  0:10                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-27  9:37                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-09-27 18:44         ` martin rudalics
2018-09-27 22:47           ` Juri Linkov
2018-09-30  8:00             ` martin rudalics
2018-09-30 11:40               ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-09-30 12:22                 ` martin rudalics
2018-09-30 12:32                   ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-30 12:43                     ` martin rudalics
2018-09-30 13:04                       ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-30 13:38                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-09-30 21:26                           ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-30 23:33                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-01  8:36                           ` martin rudalics
2018-10-01 13:18                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-01 15:07                               ` martin rudalics
2018-10-01 18:10                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-02  7:38                                   ` martin rudalics [this message]
2018-10-02 13:24                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-01 13:05                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-01 13:14                     ` Noam Postavsky
2018-10-01 15:06                       ` martin rudalics
2022-04-30 14:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-30 14:54   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-01 17:00     ` Juri Linkov

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