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* bug#37242: orgtbl-to-tsv drops empty cell
@ 2019-08-31  7:31 Tak Kunihiro
  2020-02-17  7:31 ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tak Kunihiro @ 2019-08-31  7:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 37242; +Cc: tkk

When org-mode table is converted to tab delimitated text using
orgtbl-to-tsv, empty cell is dropped out.  I think this is bug.

GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-08-29
runemacs -Q
(require 'org-table)
(orgtbl-to-tsv '(("aaa") ("bbb") ("") ("ddd")) nil) ; => "aaa\nbbb\nddd"
(orgtbl-to-tsv '(("aaa") ("bbb") ("") ("ddd")) '(:backend ascii)) ; => " aaa \n bbb \n     \n ddd "





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* bug#37242: orgtbl-to-tsv drops empty cell
  2019-08-31  7:31 bug#37242: orgtbl-to-tsv drops empty cell Tak Kunihiro
@ 2020-02-17  7:31 ` Bastien
  2020-02-18  7:13   ` Tak Kunihiro
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2020-02-17  7:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tak Kunihiro; +Cc: 37242

Hi Tak,

Tak Kunihiro <tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> writes:

> When org-mode table is converted to tab delimitated text using
> orgtbl-to-tsv, empty cell is dropped out.  I think this is bug.
>
> GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-08-29
> runemacs -Q
> (require 'org-table)
> (orgtbl-to-tsv '(("aaa") ("bbb") ("") ("ddd")) nil) ; => "aaa\nbbb\nddd"
> (orgtbl-to-tsv '(("aaa") ("bbb") ("") ("ddd")) '(:backend ascii)) ; => " aaa \n bbb \n     \n ddd "


(orgtbl-to-tsv '(("aaa") ("bbb") ("") ("ddd")) nil) returns the same
output than orgtbl-to-csv, which is to ignore empty *lines* when the
backend is not set ("nil" here).

I don't think this is a bug.

(orgtbl-to-tsv '(("aaa" "AAA") ("bbb" "BBB") ("" "") ("ddd" "DDD")) nil)
returns something sensible.

Let me know if I miss something.

Otherwise I'll close this bug in a month or so.

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien





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* bug#37242: orgtbl-to-tsv drops empty cell
  2020-02-17  7:31 ` Bastien
@ 2020-02-18  7:13   ` Tak Kunihiro
  2020-02-18  7:43     ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tak Kunihiro @ 2020-02-18  7:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bzg; +Cc: 37242, tkk

Dear Bastien,

>> When org-mode table is converted to tab delimited text using
>> orgtbl-to-tsv, empty cell is dropped out.  I think this is bug.
>>
>> GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-08-29
>> runemacs -Q
>> (require 'org-table)
>> (orgtbl-to-tsv '(("aaa") ("bbb") ("") ("ddd")) nil) ; => "aaa\nbbb\nddd"
>> (orgtbl-to-tsv '(("aaa") ("bbb") ("") ("ddd")) '(:backend ascii)) ; => " aaa \n bbb \n     \n ddd "
> 
> (orgtbl-to-tsv '(("aaa") ("bbb") ("") ("ddd")) nil) returns the same
> output than orgtbl-to-csv, which is to ignore empty *lines* when the
> backend is not set ("nil" here).
> 
> I don't think this is a bug.
> 
> (orgtbl-to-tsv '(("aaa" "AAA") ("bbb" "BBB") ("" "") ("ddd" "DDD")) nil)
> returns something sensible.

What orgtbl-to-tsv/csv does is to convert delimiters.  In my opinion,
to drop out empty lines is overwork.

This comes from orgtbl-to-generic.  I cannot tell the behavior from
docstring.  If this is not a bug, I feel like this behavior is random
one.





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* bug#37242: orgtbl-to-tsv drops empty cell
  2020-02-18  7:13   ` Tak Kunihiro
@ 2020-02-18  7:43     ` Bastien
  2020-03-04 23:20       ` Tak Kunihiro
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2020-02-18  7:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tak Kunihiro; +Cc: 37242

Dear Tak,

Tak Kunihiro <tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> writes:

> What orgtbl-to-tsv/csv does is to convert delimiters.  In my opinion,
> to drop out empty lines is overwork.

Empty lines in csv/tsv files (when they are not part of a
double-quoted field) are ignored or should be.

For example, the Python CSV parser ignores them.

So Org does the right thing at not reprensenting them at all IMHO.

> This comes from orgtbl-to-generic.  I cannot tell the behavior from
> docstring.  If this is not a bug, I feel like this behavior is random
> one.

Yes, I don't consider this a bug.  If you want to improve the
documentation, can you submit a patch?

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien





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* bug#37242: orgtbl-to-tsv drops empty cell
  2020-02-18  7:43     ` Bastien
@ 2020-03-04 23:20       ` Tak Kunihiro
  2020-05-22 13:36         ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tak Kunihiro @ 2020-03-04 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: 37242, tkk

Dear Bastien,

>> What orgtbl-to-tsv/csv does is to convert delimiters.  In my opinion,
>> to drop out empty lines is overwork.
>
> Empty lines in csv/tsv files (when they are not part of a
> double-quoted field) are ignored or should be.
>
> For example, the Python CSV parser ignores them.
>
> So Org does the right thing at not reprensenting them at all IMHO.
>
>> This comes from orgtbl-to-generic.  I cannot tell the behavior from
>> docstring.  If this is not a bug, I feel like this behavior is random
>> one.
>
> Yes, I don't consider this a bug.  If you want to improve the
> documentation, can you submit a patch?

I tried to go though orgtbl-to-generic, but I cannot find out how the
line was dropped.  I'm okay, please close the bug.

-Tak





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* bug#37242: orgtbl-to-tsv drops empty cell
  2020-03-04 23:20       ` Tak Kunihiro
@ 2020-05-22 13:36         ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2020-05-22 13:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tak Kunihiro; +Cc: 37242-done, tkk

Hi Tak Kunihiro,

Tak Kunihiro <homeros.misasa@gmail.com> writes:

> I tried to go though orgtbl-to-generic, but I cannot find out how the
> line was dropped.  I'm okay, please close the bug.

Done, thanks.

-- 
 Bastien





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