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From: Brett Gilio <brettg@posteo.net>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 32252@debbugs.gnu.org, Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#32252: [PATCH] %o and %x now format signed numbers
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 18:33:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877eli28mp.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <88033810-6f82-8fab-e64e-7ae948b723e7@cs.ucla.edu>


Paul Eggert writes:
> I don't know what inconsistent behavior would make sense here. 
> There's a
> longstanding tradition in Lisp that integer arithmetic just 
> works, and I don't
> see why Emacs would want to fight against that tradition here. 
> Although there
> may be some low-level functions that distinguish between fixnums 
> and bignums for
> efficiency reasons, the vast majority of Lisp functions should 
> not distinguish
> them, and 'format' should be one of those functions.
>> Maybe we should merge the branch first, let the dust settle and 
>> let
>> people use the new functionality, then revisit this stuff with 
>> more
>> experience on our hands.

Paul, I agree with you here. However, I wonder what you mean by 
"just
works" in contrast to what Eli suggested about the inconsistency 
in
behavior between the different function definitions for fixnums 
and
bignums.

How would that be working against the lisp tradition?



-- 
Brett M. Gilio
Free Software Foundation, Member
https://parabola.nu | https://emacs.org





  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-25 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-23 19:12 bug#32252: [PATCH] %o and %x now format signed numbers Paul Eggert
2018-07-23 19:48 ` Helmut Eller
2018-07-23 19:49 ` Drew Adams
2018-07-23 23:30   ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-24  1:20     ` Drew Adams
2018-07-24  2:04       ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-24  2:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-24  2:44           ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-24 14:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-24  4:15         ` Drew Adams
2018-07-23 23:39 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-24  1:16   ` Drew Adams
2018-07-25  3:53     ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-25 21:56       ` Drew Adams
2018-07-27  3:20         ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-24  4:49   ` Helmut Eller
2018-07-24 14:22     ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-24 14:35       ` Andreas Schwab
2018-07-24 18:15       ` Helmut Eller
2018-07-25  0:50         ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-25  2:41           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-25 17:21             ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-25 17:28               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-26  7:44                 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-26  8:04                   ` Helmut Eller
2018-07-26  8:16                     ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-25  6:58           ` Helmut Eller
2018-07-26  7:59             ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-26  8:43               ` Helmut Eller
2018-07-26  9:15                 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-26  9:39                   ` Helmut Eller
2018-07-26  9:31                 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-07-26  9:40                   ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-26  9:56                   ` Helmut Eller
2018-07-26 16:55                     ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-26 17:16                       ` Helmut Eller
2018-07-26 17:50                         ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-26 18:35                           ` Helmut Eller
2018-07-26 21:07                             ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-24 18:27     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-25  0:54       ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-25  8:09         ` Andreas Schwab
2018-07-25 20:16           ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-25 14:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-25 23:33         ` Brett Gilio [this message]
2018-07-26  7:26           ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-24 16:26 ` Andy Moreton
2018-07-25 10:08 ` Andy Moreton
2018-07-26 12:52 ` Andy Moreton
2018-07-26 12:54 ` Andy Moreton
2018-07-26 17:18 ` Helmut Eller
2018-08-23  9:37 ` Helmut Eller
2022-07-04  1:03 ` bug#32252: i find binary-as-unsigned to be very helpful snickerbockers

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