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* bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize doesn't not encode list like json-encode
@ 2020-08-06 22:17 Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
  2020-08-06 22:29 ` bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize does " Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
  2021-06-12 12:53 ` bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize doesn't " Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong @ 2020-08-06 22:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 42733


Reproduction:

(json-encode '("foo" "bar"))
=> "[\"foo\",\"bar\"]"

(json-serialize '("foo" "bar"))

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument symbolp "foo")
  json-serialize(("foo" "bar"))

The potential for people to naively substitute json-encode with
json-serialize and breaking their code is enormous. This is already
happening in lsp-mode. Please make json-serialize behave like
json-encode.

Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong


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* bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize does not encode list like json-encode
  2020-08-06 22:17 bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize doesn't not encode list like json-encode Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
@ 2020-08-06 22:29 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
  2020-08-07  2:18   ` 황병희
  2021-06-12 12:53 ` bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize doesn't " Lars Ingebrigtsen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong @ 2020-08-06 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 42733

Note to self, always check the email subject before sending ....

On 06/08/2020 11:17 PM, Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong wrote:
> Reproduction:
>
> (json-encode '("foo" "bar"))
> => "[\"foo\",\"bar\"]"
>
> (json-serialize '("foo" "bar"))
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument symbolp "foo")
>    json-serialize(("foo" "bar"))
>
> The potential for people to naively substitute json-encode with
> json-serialize and breaking their code is enormous. This is already
> happening in lsp-mode. Please make json-serialize behave like
> json-encode.
>
> Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
>
>
> In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin19.6.0, NS appkit-1894.60 Version 10.15.6 (Build 19G73))
>   of 2020-07-30 built on MobileCat.local
> Repository revision: d024fc141bab0b8d3400dc6b53eac1ed199ddb1f
> Repository branch: HEAD
> Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1894
> System Description:  Mac OS X 10.15.6
>
> Recent messages:
> Back to top level
> Entering debugger...
> "[1,2,3]"
> [1 2 3]
> "[1,2,3]"
> "[\"foo\",\"bar\"]"
> Back to top level
> Send this bug report to the Emacs maintainers? (y or n) n
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> user-error: No window right from selected window
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>   -Wl,-syslibroot,/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.15.sdk
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* bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize does not encode list like json-encode
  2020-08-06 22:29 ` bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize does " Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
@ 2020-08-07  2:18   ` 황병희
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: 황병희 @ 2020-08-07  2:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 42733

Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong <wyuenho@gmail.com> writes:

> ...
>> Reproduction:
>>
>> (json-encode '("foo" "bar"))
>> => "[\"foo\",\"bar\"]"
>>
>> (json-serialize '("foo" "bar"))
>>
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument symbolp "foo")
>>    json-serialize(("foo" "bar"))
>>
>> The potential for people to naively substitute json-encode with
>> json-serialize and breaking their code is enormous. This is already
>> happening in lsp-mode. Please make json-serialize behave like
>> json-encode.
>>
>> Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong

I just would like to raise up this PR because i like very much JSON things. 

So thanks for Jimmy, indeed...!!!

Sincerely, JSON fan Byung-Hee

-- 
^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//





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* bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize doesn't not encode list like json-encode
  2020-08-06 22:17 bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize doesn't not encode list like json-encode Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
  2020-08-06 22:29 ` bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize does " Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
@ 2021-06-12 12:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2021-07-05 17:45   ` Philipp
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-06-12 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong; +Cc: 42733, Philipp Stephani

Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong <wyuenho@gmail.com> writes:

> (json-encode '("foo" "bar"))
> => "[\"foo\",\"bar\"]"
>
> (json-serialize '("foo" "bar"))
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument symbolp "foo")
>   json-serialize(("foo" "bar"))
>
> The potential for people to naively substitute json-encode with
> json-serialize and breaking their code is enormous. This is already
> happening in lsp-mode. Please make json-serialize behave like
> json-encode.

json.c is a lot less "DWIM" than json.el -- which I think is generally a
good idea when it comes to doing round-trips between Elisp and JSON,
because you avoid a lot of corner cases.

So I'd be inclined to just regard this as a feature, but I've added
Philipp to the CCs -- perhaps he has some comments.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize doesn't not encode list like json-encode
  2021-06-12 12:53 ` bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize doesn't " Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2021-07-05 17:45   ` Philipp
  2021-07-05 19:48     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Philipp @ 2021-07-05 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 42733, Philipp Stephani, Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong



> Am 12.06.2021 um 14:53 schrieb Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:
> 
> Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong <wyuenho@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> (json-encode '("foo" "bar"))
>> => "[\"foo\",\"bar\"]"
>> 
>> (json-serialize '("foo" "bar"))
>> 
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument symbolp "foo")
>>  json-serialize(("foo" "bar"))
>> 
>> The potential for people to naively substitute json-encode with
>> json-serialize and breaking their code is enormous. This is already
>> happening in lsp-mode. Please make json-serialize behave like
>> json-encode.
> 
> json.c is a lot less "DWIM" than json.el -- which I think is generally a
> good idea when it comes to doing round-trips between Elisp and JSON,
> because you avoid a lot of corner cases.
> 
> So I'd be inclined to just regard this as a feature, but I've added
> Philipp to the CCs -- perhaps he has some comments.

What Lars said.  In general, DWIM can be a good choice for high-level user-facing commands, but not for lower-level library functions like this.  Second-guessing the intention of the caller often generates surprising or subtly wrong results, which isn't what you want for interpreting a rather low-level protocol like JSON.  json-serialize thus very intentionally behaves differently than the json.el functions.




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* bug#42733: 27.1; json-serialize doesn't not encode list like json-encode
  2021-07-05 17:45   ` Philipp
@ 2021-07-05 19:48     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-07-05 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Philipp; +Cc: 42733, Philipp Stephani, Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong

Philipp <p.stephani2@gmail.com> writes:

>> So I'd be inclined to just regard this as a feature, but I've added
>> Philipp to the CCs -- perhaps he has some comments.
>
> What Lars said.  In general, DWIM can be a good choice for high-level
> user-facing commands, but not for lower-level library functions like
> this.  Second-guessing the intention of the caller often generates
> surprising or subtly wrong results, which isn't what you want for
> interpreting a rather low-level protocol like JSON.  json-serialize
> thus very intentionally behaves differently than the json.el
> functions.

So this works as intended, and I'm closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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