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From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: 53126@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#53126: 29.0.50; [PATCH] Lazy highlight/count when reading query-replace string, etc.
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 21:09:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875yod1wyb.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <861qz1zqfb.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Wed,  16 Mar 2022 20:56:16 +0200")

On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 at 20:56, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> wrote:

>>> So I don't see the need to have this line:
>>>
>>>   (remove-hook 'minibuffer-setup-hook #'minibuffer-lazy-highlight-setup)
>>
>> Okay, but if I remove this line, then all calls to
>> minibuffer-lazy-highlight-setup will require a with-minibuffer-setup
>> hook.  And this will be awkward:
>>
>>      (minibuffer-with-setup-hook (if isearch-lazy-highlight
>>                                       #'minibuffer-lazy-highlight-setup
>>                                     #'ignore)
>>          (read-from-minibuffer "Something: "))
>
> The answer depends on another question: how do you intend the users
> would enable this feature?  When to enable it in all minibuffers
> (like e.g. minibuffer-depth-indicate-mode does) the users will add
> to their init files:
>
>   (add-hook 'minibuffer-setup-hook #'minibuffer-lazy-highlight-setup)
>
> Then removing the user's customization would not be a nice thing to do.
> OTOH, minibuffer-with-setup-hook will remove only own hook, not the user's one.
> So to allow enabling this feature selectively, minibuffer-with-setup-hook
> is not quite awkward.

My idea is:

- The users of the feature are Elisp programmers / package authors.
- I don't think end users can meaningfully do anything directly with
  this new minibuffer hook.
- If package X wants to take advantage of the feature, then it will
  either add minibuffer-lazy-highlight-setup to the
  minibuffer-setup-hook unconditionally, or it will define an
  X-lazy-highlight customization option to control this.

So I think the conclusion is that the current approach in my patch is an
good way to proceed here?

>>> BTW, what is the relation between the minibuffer-lazy-highlight feature
>>> and another proposed feature that immediately updates the search in
>>> the buffer while editing the string in the minibuffer by isearch-edit-string?
>>> Can minibuffer-lazy-highlight be considered as a lightweight version of
>>> the buffer search from the minibuffer?
>>
>> Well, there's a package for that on ELPA (isearch-mb), so extending
>> isearch-edit-string to do that seems superfluous now?
>
> It's still possible to add this feature to isearch-edit-string,
> when the change would not be too enormous.  I recall squeezing
> it into a small patch, but unfortunately it requires changes
> in keymap priorities.

I would suggest taking a look at isearch-mb.  I think the code is pretty
tight, and I would be unable to shorten the implementation other than by
deleting comment :-)

>>>> There are a few more we could add   (perhaps later),
>>>> such as `occur' and `keep-lines'.
>>>
>>> I tried (add-hook 'minibuffer-setup-hook #'minibuffer-lazy-highlight-setup)
>>> in the minibuffer of 'occur' and others, and it works nicely.
>>> Maybe it could even semi-deprecate the package re-builder.el.
>>>
>>> Thanks for this generally usable feature.
>>
>> By the way, this is a byproduct of that long discussion that led to
>> isearch-mb, so it was not all in vain :-).
>
> Are you sure these features can't be combined?  One feature basically
> runs isearch-search-and-update in the buffer from the minibuffer,
> and this feature runs isearch-lazy-highlight-new-loop.

For one thing, isearch-mode has 2 essential commands (repeat forward and
backwards), a couple more necessary ones (quit, abort, scroll,
beginning/end of buffer, mode toggles), and then a number of commands
that end the search with a special action (query-replace, etc.).

These little details add up to the 283 lines in isearch-mb.el currently
has.

>>>> - There's no customization variable to enable the minibuffer lazy
>>>>   highlight.  The rationale is that each command that will use it should
>>>>   define its own user option (or use an existing one).  For
>>>>   `isearch-edit-string' it's `isearch-lazy-highlight'; for
>>>>   `query-replace' it's `query-replace-lazy-highlight'; and so on.
>>>
>>> A common customizable option to enable this everywhere would be nice too.
>>> Maybe disabling is already possible by customizing
>>> 'minibuffer-lazy-count-format' to nil?  Then the checks for
>>> non-nil 'minibuffer-lazy-count-format' could be added to
>>> more places, such as to wrap the whole '(condition-case error'
>>> in query-replace-read-args with the 'when' condition, etc.
>>
>> Yes, the user can set minibuffer-lazy-count-format to nil to get rid of
>> the lazy count.
>>
>> Concerning query-replace, why would anyone want to have lazy highlight
>> during the perform-replace loop, but not earlier?  I'm not a fan of
>> adding a custom option here, not because it would be hard, but because
>> it seems totally unnecessary.
>
> Maybe a new option would make sense for the same reason why there is
> the option isearch-lazy-count?

Okay, I'm not against this, but let's think about the names of these user
options.  The existing option is named query-replace-lazy-highlight,
which seems to exactly describe the new feature.  The existing feature
would more specifically be called perform-replace-lazy highlight.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-16 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-08 13:24 bug#53126: 29.0.50; [PATCH] Lazy highlight/count when reading query-replace string, etc Augusto Stoffel
2022-01-08 18:59 ` Juri Linkov
2022-01-08 19:35   ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-01-09  9:10     ` Juri Linkov
2022-01-09 10:02       ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-01-09 10:30         ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-01-09 18:58         ` Juri Linkov
2022-01-10 17:34           ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-01-10 19:09             ` Juri Linkov
2022-02-26 16:13               ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-15 17:09                 ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-15 21:33                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-16 18:56                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-16 20:09                       ` Augusto Stoffel [this message]
2022-03-17 17:09                         ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-17 19:10                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-17 20:40                             ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-17 21:42                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-20  9:38                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-20 18:51                                 ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-24 19:03                                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-25  8:39                                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-25  9:43                                       ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-27  7:46                                         ` Juri Linkov
2022-04-01  9:06                                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-04-01 16:35                                             ` Juri Linkov
2022-04-01 18:12                                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-04-02 18:23                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2022-04-03  8:32                                                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-04-03 17:06                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-04-04 16:37                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-04-05 16:38                                                       ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-04-05 17:12                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2022-04-07 19:32                                                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-04-08  7:32                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2022-04-08  7:53                                                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-04-09 11:06                                                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-04-10 19:38                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-15 17:24                 ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-15 21:21                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-16 19:02                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-16 20:25                       ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-17 17:05                         ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-17 19:06                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-20 19:24                             ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-20 19:59                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-20 20:29                                 ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-20 20:56                                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-23 18:20                                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-23 18:54                                       ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-23 19:17                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-23 19:53                                         ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-23 20:06                                           ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-23 20:30                                             ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-23 20:43                                               ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-17 19:45                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-17 20:43                             ` Juri Linkov

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