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From: "J.P." <jp@neverwas.me>
To: 29108@debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: emacs-erc@gnu.org, bandali@gnu.org
Subject: bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 06:51:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875yfflzps.fsf__38085.6396209978$1668610360$gmane$org@neverwas.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y1sdk1fg.fsf@neverwas.me> (J. P.'s message of "Mon, 14 Nov 2022 07:20:35 -0800")

Some last-minute thoughts on the previous iteration.

In 0005-Add-non-IRCv3-SASL-module-to-ERC.patch:

> diff --git a/doc/misc/erc.texi b/doc/misc/erc.texi
> index 5049710b32..8eb33c8e80 100644
> --- a/doc/misc/erc.texi
> +++ b/doc/misc/erc.texi
> @@ -78,6 +78,7 @@ Top
> [...]
> +
> +Note that @code{sasl} is a ``local'' ERC module, which various library
> +functions, like @code{erc-update-modules}, may treat differently than
> +global modules in user code.  However, this should not affect everyday
> +client use.  To get started, just add @code{sasl} to
> +@code{erc-modules} like any other module.  But before that, please
> +explore all custom options pertaining to your chosen mechanism.

An earlier version mentioned that users can customize per-network SASL
settings by let-binding `erc-sasl-*' options and `erc-modules' around
`erc-tls' invocations. I'm doubtful this is a sustainable approach and
would guess that a more declarative solution is the likeliest way
forward, perhaps something based on connection-local variables.

That said, I think users still need a practical solution to tide them
over in the short term, one that doesn't involve hooks or timers. And
since this module already takes a snapshot of its own options on
initialization (for reconnection purposes), we might as well revert to
mentioning let-binding, but this time also stress (maybe in an Advanced
chapter) that local modules are still being fleshed out and that
third-party implementations aren't yet encouraged.

> diff --git a/lisp/erc/erc-sasl.el b/lisp/erc/erc-sasl.el
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000000..a9d7ed235d
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/lisp/erc/erc-sasl.el
> @@ -0,0 +1,433 @@
> [...]
> +;;
> +;; TODO:
> +;;
> +;; - Find a way to obfuscate the password in memory (via something
> +;;   like `auth-source--obfuscate'); it's currently visible in
> +;;   backtraces and bug reports.

Just backtraces, not bug reports.

> [...]
> +
> +;; This stands alone because it's also used by bug#49860.
> +(defun erc-sasl--init ()
> +  ;; When reconnecting, try to recover stashed parameters.
> +  (let ((existing (assoc erc-networks--id erc-sasl--session-options
> +                         #'erc-networks--id-equal-p)))
> +    ;; This likely only runs when `erc' was called with an :id keyword.
> +    (when (and existing (not erc--server-reconnecting))
> +      (setq erc-sasl--session-options (delq existing erc-sasl--session-options)
> +            existing nil))
> +    (setq erc-sasl--state (make-erc-sasl--state)
> +          erc-sasl--options (or (cdr existing)
> +                                `((user . ,erc-sasl-user)
> +                                  (password . ,erc-sasl-password)
> +                                  (mechanism . ,erc-sasl-mechanism)
> +                                  (authzid . ,erc-sasl-authzid))))))
> +

We should probably register a local `erc-kill-server-hook' that deletes
whatever's stored in `erc-sasl--session-options' for the current network
context.

> [...]
> +
> +(defun erc-sasl--on-connection-established (&rest _)
> +  (setf (alist-get erc-networks--id erc-sasl--session-options nil nil
> +                   #'erc-networks--id-equal-p)
> +        erc-sasl--options
> +        ;;
> +        erc-sasl--options nil))
> +

We could just drop `erc-sasl--options' completely and use a getter to
retrieve values from the global `erc-sasl--session-options' store.
That'd be one less point of failure as far as password exposure is
concerned. And, in the future, whatever context-aware abstractions
emerge for making granular options a thing should obsolete all this
ugly stashing business anyhow.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-16 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-01 20:07 bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support Alex Branham
2017-11-10  2:24 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-10-23  9:24   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-23 10:34     ` Alex Branham
2019-10-23 11:19       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-23 12:19         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-23 12:57           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-10-23 13:32             ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-02 14:10         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-03  9:39           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-28 16:59 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-07-28 17:21   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 22:42   ` J.P.
2021-08-09  9:59   ` J.P.
2021-08-09 10:22     ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-09 10:56       ` J.P.
2021-08-09 12:39       ` J.P.
2021-08-23 13:47     ` J.P.
     [not found]     ` <87o89oi87g.fsf@neverwas.me>
2021-08-23 14:01       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]       ` <87zgt8s1jt.fsf@gnus.org>
2021-08-24 13:42         ` J.P.
2022-09-18 18:32 ` bug#29108: [J.P.] Add "non-IRCv3" SASL to ERC J.P.
2022-09-20  6:07   ` bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support J.P.
     [not found]   ` <875yhifujk.fsf_-_@neverwas.me>
2022-09-21 13:13     ` J.P.
2022-10-14  3:05       ` J.P.
     [not found]       ` <878rljxfxs.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-10-26 13:14         ` J.P.
     [not found]         ` <87k04m4th8.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-08 14:10           ` J.P.
     [not found]           ` <87o7thlepf.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-09  4:08             ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-09 13:49               ` J.P.
     [not found]               ` <874jv81bn2.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-09 17:50                 ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]                 ` <87iljoqaor.fsf@disroot.org>
2022-11-10  5:28                   ` J.P.
     [not found]                   ` <87sfirml89.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-10 18:04                     ` Adam Porter
2022-11-10 21:50                       ` J.P.
     [not found]                       ` <87sfiq7a3j.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-11  1:25                         ` Adam Porter
2022-11-11  5:56                         ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]                         ` <878rkighkn.fsf@disroot.org>
2022-11-14 22:29                           ` Adam Porter
2022-11-11  5:51                       ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-14 22:28                         ` Adam Porter
2022-11-13 15:36             ` J.P.
     [not found]             ` <87o7taoohd.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-14  6:45               ` J.P.
2022-11-14 15:20                 ` J.P.
     [not found]                 ` <87y1sdk1fg.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-16 14:51                   ` J.P. [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <875yfflzps.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-17  6:30                     ` J.P.
     [not found]                     ` <877czuks8k.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-17 15:28                       ` J.P.
2022-11-18  2:26                     ` J.P.
     [not found]                     ` <878rk9576b.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-18 14:06                       ` J.P.
     [not found]                       ` <87leo8z79j.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-19 14:48                         ` J.P.
     [not found]                         ` <87tu2vroeh.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-20 14:29                           ` J.P.
     [not found]                           ` <87wn7pog1l.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-21 15:09                             ` J.P.
     [not found]                             ` <87y1s4mjj6.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-22 14:01                               ` J.P.
     [not found]                               ` <87r0xvks03.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-24  2:49                                 ` Amin Bandali
     [not found]                                 ` <87r0xtnk24.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-11-25 14:43                                   ` J.P.
     [not found]                                   ` <87wn7jgkne.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-28  0:08                                     ` J.P.
2022-11-29  5:19                                     ` Amin Bandali
     [not found]                                     ` <87iliyz6at.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-11-29 15:05                                       ` J.P.

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