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* bug#17949: 24.3; .dir-locals.el needs a way to construct paths relative to its own location
@ 2014-07-05 21:12 Samuel Bronson
  2014-07-08 18:17 ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Bronson @ 2014-07-05 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 17949


Sometimes, I want to use .dir-locals.el to set a variable to refer to a
specific file within the tree in question, independantly of how deep in
that tree the file in question actually is.

Unfortunately, judging by <http://stackoverflow.com/q/4012321/294313>
and the manual, there is *no mechanism* to do this.

(Unless you count the `eval' "variable".  Which I don't.)

Perhaps using a form something like:

    ,(expand-file-name "etc/foo.bar" dir-locals-directory)

?


In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2014-06-06 on babin, modified by Debian
Windowing system distributor `Colin Harrison', version 11.0.60900031
System Description:	Debian GNU/Linux testing (jessie)

Configured using:
 `configure '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu'
 '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib'
 '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info'
 '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes'
 '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs24:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.3/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.3/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp'
 '--with-crt-dir=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu' '--with-x=yes'
 '--with-x-toolkit=lucid' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' '--without-gconf'
 '--without-gsettings' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-g -O2
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 -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro'
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* bug#17949: 24.3; .dir-locals.el needs a way to construct paths relative to its own location
  2014-07-05 21:12 bug#17949: 24.3; .dir-locals.el needs a way to construct paths relative to its own location Samuel Bronson
@ 2014-07-08 18:17 ` Stefan Monnier
  2021-05-29  5:09   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2014-07-08 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Samuel Bronson; +Cc: 17949

> Sometimes, I want to use .dir-locals.el to set a variable to refer to a
> specific file within the tree in question, independantly of how deep in
> that tree the file in question actually is.

You could use something like:

   (eval (setq-local my-var
                     (expand-file-name "etc/foo"
                                       (locate-dominating-file
                                        default-directory ".dir-locals.el"))))

> Perhaps using a form something like:
>     ,(expand-file-name "etc/foo.bar" dir-locals-directory)

Problem is security: the .dir-local.el file might not be under your
control, so we don't want to run arbitrary code.  The "eval" option
above of course suffers from the same problem, but at least it's the
official existing way to run arbitrary code, which means it doesn't run
that code silently unless you've previous accepted it as "safe".

This said, it might indeed be handy to be able to use , like you suggest
(tho it too would need to go though some "security check", of course).


        Stefan





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* bug#17949: 24.3; .dir-locals.el needs a way to construct paths relative to its own location
  2014-07-08 18:17 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2021-05-29  5:09   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-05-29  5:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Samuel Bronson, 17949

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> Sometimes, I want to use .dir-locals.el to set a variable to refer to a
>> specific file within the tree in question, independantly of how deep in
>> that tree the file in question actually is.
>
> You could use something like:
>
>    (eval (setq-local my-var
>                      (expand-file-name "etc/foo"
>                                        (locate-dominating-file
>                                         default-directory ".dir-locals.el"))))
>
>> Perhaps using a form something like:
>>     ,(expand-file-name "etc/foo.bar" dir-locals-directory)
>
> Problem is security: the .dir-local.el file might not be under your
> control, so we don't want to run arbitrary code.  The "eval" option
> above of course suffers from the same problem, but at least it's the
> official existing way to run arbitrary code, which means it doesn't run
> that code silently unless you've previous accepted it as "safe".
>
> This said, it might indeed be handy to be able to use , like you suggest
> (tho it too would need to go though some "security check", of course).

, as syntactic sugar here would be nice, but I'm thinking the added
complexity here wouldn't be worth it (since we already have the `eval'
method here).

So I'm closing this bug report.

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2014-07-05 21:12 bug#17949: 24.3; .dir-locals.el needs a way to construct paths relative to its own location Samuel Bronson
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