bug#53819: 29.0.50; Follow the national way to use floating point numbers.

bug#53819: 29.0.50; Follow the national way to use floating point numbers.

[Niels Søndergaard]

In alle European countries (except UK) we use decimal comma and dots for
dots for tell thousands. Emacs only use the US/UK way with decimal dots
and comma for thousands.
The "right" way is already defined in the nationality ID, but configure
this on my iMAC tells me, that emacs does not support languages.



In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin21.2.0, NS appkit-2113.20 Version 12.1 (Build 21C52))
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bug#53819: 29.0.50; Follow the national way to use floating point numbers.

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni@algon.dk>
> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2022 14:51:31 +0100
> 
> 
> In alle European countries (except UK) we use decimal comma and dots for
> dots for tell thousands. Emacs only use the US/UK way with decimal dots
> and comma for thousands.
> The "right" way is already defined in the nationality ID, but configure
> this on my iMAC tells me, that emacs does not support languages.

If we were to use the locale-specific conventions for decimal and
thousands separators, then how could Emacs in locale A correctly read
and execute a program written in locale B?

bug#53819: 29.0.50; Follow the national way to use floating point numbers.

[Eli Zaretskii]

[Please use Reply All to reply to messages, so that the bug tracker is
kept on the CC list.]

> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni@algon.dk>
> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2022 15:31:43 +0100
> 
> A really good question, however I have two answers
> 
> 1. it works if an american send me a “numbers" spreadsheet on my iMAC, I think it works for the people
> using M$ Windows, but I have no idea why it works
> 2. it’s a nuisance, I’ve user comma’s for decimal in 69 years (from 2 grade in school)
> 
> I would rather have to do something with the language, if I got at file from CHINA, UK of US, than from all
> other places

bug#53819: 29.0.50; Follow the national way to use floating point numbers.

[Niels Søndergaard]

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sorry, 
sometime I do forget the most obvious things…..

It may have something to do with WorldWar II, but I've  forgotten what

mvh
Niels
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> Den 6. feb. 2022 kl. 16.55 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
> 
> [Please use Reply All to reply to messages, so that the bug tracker is
> kept on the CC list.]
> 
>> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni@algon.dk>
>> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2022 15:31:43 +0100
>> 
>> A really good question, however I have two answers
>> 
>> 1. it works if an american send me a “numbers" spreadsheet on my iMAC, I think it works for the people
>> using M$ Windows, but I have no idea why it works
>> 2. it’s a nuisance, I’ve user comma’s for decimal in 69 years (from 2 grade in school)
>> 
>> I would rather have to do something with the language, if I got at file from CHINA, UK of US, than from all
>> other places


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bug#53819: 29.0.50; Follow the national way to use floating point numbers.

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> If we were to use the locale-specific conventions for decimal and
> thousands separators, then how could Emacs in locale A correctly read
> and execute a program written in locale B?

So this isn't something we're interested in doing, and I'm therefore
closing this bug report.

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