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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org>
Cc: 14502@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#14502: 24.3; dired-load-hook should not be customizable
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 18:29:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871rxlsxs3.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdoh8TJRpPTiizOZf+RT=wKA45ztc+q_j+dq-9_190=gMWg@mail.gmail.com> (Reuben Thomas's message of "Thu, 15 Aug 2019 09:07:16 +0100")

(Please keep the debbugs address in the Cc header.)

Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org> writes:

>  I'm not sure I understand the problem, and #13870 does not talk about
>  `find-file-hook'.
>
> Sorry, that should say #13780. The problem is that add-hook (often in
> 3rd-party code) can be in a race with custom.el.
>
> As far as this bug report goes, if you try to customize dired-load-hook to load
> dired-x, it doesn't work.
>
>  Does it matter whether you use `add-hook' or Customize for this
>  particular hook?  Most hooks are customisable, surely, including
>  `find-file-hook'.
>
> Yes, and this can cause problems. See #13780.

The problem in #13780 is that if you mix add-hook with Customize
settings of a hook, then (depending on load order), the Customize value
for the hook may overwrite those add-hooks.  The solution proposed is
that one shouldn't have defcustoms on the hooks one may somehow expect
that packages add stuff to.

But dired-load-hook doesn't seem like one of those hooks, and if you
use Customize to be

(load-x)

where load-x is

(defun load-x ()
  (require 'dired-x))

then surely dired-x will be loaded with dired is loaded?  (Not that I've
tried myself.)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-16  1:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-29 13:04 bug#14502: 24.3; dired-load-hook should not be customizable Reuben Thomas
2019-08-15  4:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]   ` <CAOnWdoh8TJRpPTiizOZf+RT=wKA45ztc+q_j+dq-9_190=gMWg@mail.gmail.com>
2019-08-16  1:29     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2019-08-16  8:13       ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-08-16 20:50         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28  8:53   ` Stefan Kangas
2019-12-31 13:41 ` Mauro Aranda
2020-01-22 12:27   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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