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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: 69305@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#69305: outline-minor-mode for tabulated-list-mode
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 21:12:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86frxlmy1d.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86msrtvi06.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Wed, 21 Feb 2024 19:34:17 +0200)

> From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 19:34:17 +0200
> 
> >> +(defcustom Buffer-menu-group-by nil
> >> +  "If non-nil, buffers are grouped by function."
> >> +  :type 'function
> >> +  :group 'Buffer-menu
> >> +  :version "30.1")
> >
> > Please consider letting users choose a symbol, not a function.  Each
> > symbol can be mapped to a function, but having a user option whose
> > values are functions makes it harder for users to customize the
> > option.
> 
> Ok, now the type is changed to 'symbol'.  Here is the complete patch:

Thanks, but I wonder if we can be a tad more user-friendly?  The user
option exists, and it can accept simple enough data structures for
customizations, but the default is nil, and there's no example or
pre-cooked list of ready-to-use values anywhere in sight, not even in
the doc string.  Users will have to work hard to produce a grouping of
their liking.  E.g., suppose I want to group buffers by mode -- how
would I go about it?  Or what about grouping buffers by their leading
directories -- how can that be done?  Etc. etc. -- this could be a
very powerful feature, but we should make its use easier.  And, after
reading the documentation of tabulated-list-groups and that of
tabulated-list-entries several times, I have no idea how to specify
simple groupings such as those described above.  Which makes examples
or pre-cooked values even more important, IMO.

What I had in mind when I said "choose a symbol" was that a symbol
will stand for a pre-cooked grouping.  For example, 'mode would cause
buffers grouped by major-mode, 'directory will group by leading
directories, 'alphabet will group by the first letter of the name,
etc.  What this patch provides is quite a far cry from that.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-21 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-21 17:34 bug#69305: outline-minor-mode for tabulated-list-mode Juri Linkov
2024-02-21 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-02-22  7:44   ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-22  8:20     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-22 17:30       ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-22 19:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-23  7:09           ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-23  8:13             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-24 17:43               ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-24 18:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-24 18:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-25  8:00                   ` Adam Porter
2024-02-25 17:25                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-25 19:17                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-27  7:30                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-27  8:31                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-27 17:40                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-27 18:44                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-28  7:36                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-28 12:16                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-29  7:45                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-29 16:33                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-29 17:50                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-03  6:53                                         ` Jean Louis
2024-03-03  7:52                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-24 18:06     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-24 18:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-24 18:36         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-24 18:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-25  7:45             ` Adam Porter
2024-02-25 17:36               ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-26  3:31                 ` Adam Porter
2024-03-06 17:37                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-08 23:13                     ` Adam Porter
2024-02-25  7:53             ` Adam Porter
2024-02-25  8:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-25 17:20       ` Juri Linkov

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