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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 54698@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#54698: non-recursive GC marking [PATCH]
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2022 15:25:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y20ldoik.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A1AD1A62-EC18-4546-968D-41C559D8104E@acm.org> (message from Mattias Engdegård on Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:57:54 +0200)

> Feedback-ID:mattiase@acm.or
> From: Mattias Engdegård <mattiase@acm.org>
> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:57:54 +0200
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 54698@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> 4 apr. 2022 kl. 13.38 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
> 
> > What happens with data that GC relocates, like when it relocates and
> > compacts string data?  If the relocated data is allocated on the heap
> > after the simulated stack, the original string data, which is now free
> > memory, will be "trapped" behind the simulated stack, and 'free' will
> > be unable to return it to the OS.  This could make the memory
> > footprint of Emacs larger than it could be.
> 
> That effect is unlikely to be visible. I don't think a single (and not very big) allocation would contribute materially to heap fragmentation, given the amount of allocation being made all the time. (But prove me wrong!)

I don't need to prove you wrong: if the problem is real, we will hear
about that soon enough.

In principle, even a small allocation can prevent a large free portion
of the arena from being returned to the OS.  And Lisp strings nowadays
tend to be a legion and some quite large in some applications, because
many packages abuse them (instead of using temporary buffers).





  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-04 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-03 18:40 bug#54698: non-recursive GC marking [PATCH] Mattias Engdegård
2022-04-04 11:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-04 11:16   ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-04-04 11:29     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-04 11:31       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-04 11:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-04 11:57       ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-04-04 12:25         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-04-04 17:18           ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-04-05  1:15     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-05  8:08       ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-04-05  8:39         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-05 11:11           ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-04-05 11:26             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-05 11:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-05 12:31           ` Philipp Stephani
2022-04-05 13:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-06  4:09               ` Richard Stallman
2022-04-06  5:48                 ` Phil Sainty
2022-04-06 10:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-06 12:05                   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-06 12:23                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-06 12:34                       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-06 14:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-06 12:52                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-08  4:24                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-04-08  5:49                       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-08  6:16                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-08  7:41                           ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-08 11:15                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-08 11:32                               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-08 11:55                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-08 11:58                               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-08 12:07                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-08 12:16                                   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-08 13:07                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-09  0:28                                       ` Phil Sainty
2022-04-08 12:13                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-04 14:32 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-04-04 14:39   ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-04-04 15:44     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-04-04 16:04       ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-04-05  9:10         ` Andrea Corallo

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