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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: 65803@debbugs.gnu.org, shingo.fg8@gmail.com
Subject: bug#65803: 29.1; Noto Sans Mono CJK JP has doubled-width on Windows
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2023 09:48:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y1heseud.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877coybmho.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sun, 10 Sep 2023 13:55:47 +0800)

> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: shingo.fg8@gmail.com,  65803@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2023 13:55:47 +0800
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > No, the purpose of FRAME_COLUMN_WIDTH is much more than just "the
> > width of ASCII characters".  It is used as the canonical character
> > width of the frame, for gazillion purposes.  One example which
> > triggered this bug is :align-to display spec, something utterly
> > unrelated to ASCII characters.
> 
> However, the column width has hitherto been defined to the average width
> of the frame font's ASCII characters.  At least outside W32, that is.

No!  Once again, for fixed-pitch fonts the average width is taken from
the font.  Here, from ftfont.c:

    if (spacing != FC_PROPORTIONAL
  #ifdef FC_DUAL
	&& spacing != FC_DUAL
  #endif	/* FC_DUAL */
	)
      font->min_width = font->average_width = font->space_width
	= (scalable ? ft_face->max_advance_width * size / upEM + 0.5
	   : ft_face->size->metrics.max_advance >> 6);
    else
      {
	int n;

	font->min_width = font->average_width = font->space_width = 0;
	for (i = 32, n = 0; i < 127; i++)
	  if (FT_Load_Char (ft_face, i, FT_LOAD_DEFAULT) == 0)
	    {
	      int this_width = ft_face->glyph->metrics.horiAdvance >> 6;

	      if (this_width > 0
		  && (! font->min_width || font->min_width > this_width))
		font->min_width = this_width;
	      if (i == 32)
		font->space_width = this_width;
	      font->average_width += this_width;
	      n++;
	    }
	if (n > 0)
	  font->average_width /= n;
      }

This clearly only calculates the average width for proportional fonts,
and otherwise takes the average width from the font's max_advance
width without calculating anything.  Or what am I missing?

> > But other font back-ends don't compute average_width for fixed-pitch
> > fonts, so are you only talking about proportional fonts here?
> 
> I'm talking about fonts in general: since fixed pitch fonts are meant to
> incorporate uniformly sized glyphs, the width of the space glyph should
> represent the average width of any subset of the font's glyphs.  In this
> particular case, Fontconfig doesn't deem the font in question a fixed
> pitch font, and thus Emacs measures the average width of each ASCII
> character itself.

See above: other backends only calculate the average width for
proportional fonts.  So what you say doesn't fit my reading of the
code.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-10  6:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-07 13:38 bug#65803: 29.1; Noto Sans Mono CJK JP has doubled-width on Windows Shingo Tanaka
2023-09-07 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 14:24   ` Shingo Tanaka
2023-09-07 14:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 14:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 23:19         ` Shingo Tanaka
2023-09-08  6:25           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 22:26             ` Shingo Tanaka
2023-09-08 12:18               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-08 13:42                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-08 14:49                   ` Werner LEMBERG
2023-09-09 12:51                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-09 13:42                       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-09 14:45                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-09 12:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-09 13:38                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-09 14:39                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-09 14:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-10  1:00                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-10  5:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-10  5:36                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-10  5:42                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-10  5:55                                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-10  6:48                                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-09-10  7:31                                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-10  7:53                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-10  7:55                                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-10  8:01                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-10  8:08                                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-10  8:19                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-10  8:31                                                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-10  8:50                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-10  9:30                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-10 11:29                                                       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-10 11:44                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-10 12:09                                                           ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-10 12:43                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-10 12:39                                               ` Shingo Tanaka

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