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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Cc: 4789@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#4789: use bootstrap-emacs to build emacs/leim directory, load emacs/leim/leim-list.el to loadup.el
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 20:09:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83vcl87rxc.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <qybon0uanx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: 4789@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:34:10 -0400
> 
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > But you need to do this again whenever Emacs is rebuilt, not just at
> > bootstrap time.  Right?  Are you relying on the fact that on Posix
> > hosts bootstrap-emacs and emacs are (currently) the same executable,
> > and that bootstrap-emacs is generated even when no bootstrap is
> > necessary, like when building a released tarball?
> 
> Indeed I need to think about this more... My initial thought is that it
> should be treated like loaddefs.el (and finder-inf.el, cus-load.el,
> etc). All these are pre-built in the release tarfile, so maybe
> leim-list.el should be too. Now that I think about it, it's suprising
> that it isn't already.

Well, that goes hand in hand with the fact that the *.el files under
leim/ are not byte-compiled in the tarball.  Basically, a remnant from
ye-old days when Leim was a separate package.  I think we should
compile all the *.el files under leim/ as well, but Stefan once told
me something that I interpreted to mean he would rather go in the
opposite direction -- let the build process compile all the *.el files
under lisp/ and ship them uncompiled in the tarball.  Maybe I
misunderstood.

> > So you just need _any_ emacs executable capable of code that generates
> > leim-list.el, is that right?
> 
> Right. But when bootstrapping on MS Windows, there must still be two
> versions of the emacs binary, right? One that is called early on and
> loads uncompiled Lisp files (whether or not it is called
> "bootstrap-emacs"), and is used to generate the compiled Lisp files that
> are loaded by the final, "proper" Emacs?

Yes.

> If so, I mean the first one.

Yes, that part is clear.





  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-09 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-06 16:49 bug#4881: use bootstrap-emacs to build emacs/leim directory, load emacs/leim/leim-list.el to loadup.el Dan Nicolaescu
2011-07-13 14:25 ` bug#4789: " Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-13 17:00   ` Glenn Morris
2011-07-16 19:50     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-16 23:37       ` Glenn Morris
2011-07-17  0:59         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2009-10-23  5:26           ` bug#4789: leim-list.el needs to be included in the dumped images Dan Nicolaescu
2011-07-17 23:10             ` bug#4789: use bootstrap-emacs to build emacs/leim directory, load emacs/leim/leim-list.el to loadup.el Glenn Morris
2011-07-18  6:01               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2012-04-09  7:20               ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-09  7:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-09  7:59                   ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-09  8:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-09 16:34                       ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-09 17:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2012-04-09 17:30                           ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-09 17:38                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-10  1:52                           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-10  6:32                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-10 12:57                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-26  1:08                                 ` Glenn Morris
2011-07-17  7:26           ` Andreas Schwab

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