* bug#60490: 29.0.60; sqlite-mode-open-file fails to work over tramp
@ 2023-01-02 11:26 Mohammed Sadiq
2023-01-02 12:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mohammed Sadiq @ 2023-01-02 11:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 60490
Opening sqlite db files from remote system over tramp (with M-x
sqlite-mode-open-file) fails with the following error in *Messages*:
sqlite-mode-list-tables: Wrong type argument: sqlitep, nil
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* bug#60490: 29.0.60; sqlite-mode-open-file fails to work over tramp
2023-01-02 11:26 bug#60490: 29.0.60; sqlite-mode-open-file fails to work over tramp Mohammed Sadiq
@ 2023-01-02 12:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-15 5:41 ` Mohammed Sadiq
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-01-02 12:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mohammed Sadiq; +Cc: 60490
severity 60490 wishlist
thanks
> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2023 16:56:24 +0530
> From: Mohammed Sadiq <sadiq@sadiqpk.org>
>
> Opening sqlite db files from remote system over tramp (with M-x
> sqlite-mode-open-file) fails with the following error in *Messages*:
>
> sqlite-mode-list-tables: Wrong type argument: sqlitep, nil
The built-in SQLite support doesn't (yet) support remote DB access.
So I'm converting this report to a feature request. Patches welcome.
Thanks.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#60490: 29.0.60; sqlite-mode-open-file fails to work over tramp
2023-01-02 12:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-01-15 5:41 ` Mohammed Sadiq
2023-01-15 7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mohammed Sadiq @ 2023-01-15 5:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 60490
On 2023-01-02 18:13, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> severity 60490 wishlist
> thanks
>
>> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2023 16:56:24 +0530
>> From: Mohammed Sadiq <sadiq@sadiqpk.org>
>>
>> Opening sqlite db files from remote system over tramp (with M-x
>> sqlite-mode-open-file) fails with the following error in *Messages*:
>>
>> sqlite-mode-list-tables: Wrong type argument: sqlitep, nil
>
> The built-in SQLite support doesn't (yet) support remote DB access.
> So I'm converting this report to a feature request. Patches welcome.
>
In that case, it would be better to show a warning message that
it's not supported instead of failing with errors that gives no
hint to the user.
Also, Emacs may also show the related bug number regarding such
issues so that interested users can subscribe to know updates.
thanks,
Mohammed Sadiq
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#60490: 29.0.60; sqlite-mode-open-file fails to work over tramp
2023-01-15 5:41 ` Mohammed Sadiq
@ 2023-01-15 7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-15 8:19 ` Mohammed Sadiq
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-01-15 7:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mohammed Sadiq; +Cc: 60490
> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 11:11:49 +0530
> From: Mohammed Sadiq <sadiq@sadiqpk.org>
> Cc: 60490@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> On 2023-01-02 18:13, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > severity 60490 wishlist
> > thanks
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2023 16:56:24 +0530
> >> From: Mohammed Sadiq <sadiq@sadiqpk.org>
> >>
> >> Opening sqlite db files from remote system over tramp (with M-x
> >> sqlite-mode-open-file) fails with the following error in *Messages*:
> >>
> >> sqlite-mode-list-tables: Wrong type argument: sqlitep, nil
> >
> > The built-in SQLite support doesn't (yet) support remote DB access.
> > So I'm converting this report to a feature request. Patches welcome.
> >
>
> In that case, it would be better to show a warning message that
> it's not supported instead of failing with errors that gives no
> hint to the user.
I disagree that we should show a warning in such cases. The user
asked Emacs to do something, and Emacs couldn't; the appropriate
response is to signal an error, not to show a warning. Showing a
warning would mean we don't abort whatever Lisp program that was
trying to do something we cannot do.
I agree that a more targeted error message would be beneficial;
patches for that are welcome as well.
> Also, Emacs may also show the related bug number regarding such
> issues so that interested users can subscribe to know updates.
We don't have any infrastructure in Emacs for doing stuff like that.
It would be a useful feature, I think (although not easy to
implement), but please submit a separate feature request for it.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#60490: 29.0.60; sqlite-mode-open-file fails to work over tramp
2023-01-15 7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-01-15 8:19 ` Mohammed Sadiq
2023-01-15 10:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mohammed Sadiq @ 2023-01-15 8:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 60490
On 2023-01-15 12:57, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 11:11:49 +0530
>> From: Mohammed Sadiq <sadiq@sadiqpk.org>
>> Cc: 60490@debbugs.gnu.org
>>
>> On 2023-01-02 18:13, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> > severity 60490 wishlist
>> > thanks
>> >
>> >> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2023 16:56:24 +0530
>> >> From: Mohammed Sadiq <sadiq@sadiqpk.org>
>> >>
>> >> Opening sqlite db files from remote system over tramp (with M-x
>> >> sqlite-mode-open-file) fails with the following error in *Messages*:
>> >>
>> >> sqlite-mode-list-tables: Wrong type argument: sqlitep, nil
>> >
>> > The built-in SQLite support doesn't (yet) support remote DB access.
>> > So I'm converting this report to a feature request. Patches welcome.
>> >
>>
>> In that case, it would be better to show a warning message that
>> it's not supported instead of failing with errors that gives no
>> hint to the user.
>
> I disagree that we should show a warning in such cases. The user
> asked Emacs to do something, and Emacs couldn't; the appropriate
> response is to signal an error, not to show a warning. Showing a
> warning would mean we don't abort whatever Lisp program that was
> trying to do something we cannot do.
>
> I agree that a more targeted error message would be beneficial;
> patches for that are welcome as well.
An error message was what I meant.
>
>> Also, Emacs may also show the related bug number regarding such
>> issues so that interested users can subscribe to know updates.
>
> We don't have any infrastructure in Emacs for doing stuff like that.
> It would be a useful feature, I think (although not easy to
> implement), but please submit a separate feature request for it.
I was suggesting to show an error message like:
"sqlite-xxx is not supported over tramp, see bug#xxx"
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* bug#60490: 29.0.60; sqlite-mode-open-file fails to work over tramp
2023-01-15 8:19 ` Mohammed Sadiq
@ 2023-01-15 10:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-01-15 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mohammed Sadiq; +Cc: 60490
> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 13:49:49 +0530
> From: Mohammed Sadiq <sadiq@sadiqpk.org>
> Cc: 60490@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> >> In that case, it would be better to show a warning message that
> >> it's not supported instead of failing with errors that gives no
> >> hint to the user.
> >
> > I disagree that we should show a warning in such cases. The user
> > asked Emacs to do something, and Emacs couldn't; the appropriate
> > response is to signal an error, not to show a warning. Showing a
> > warning would mean we don't abort whatever Lisp program that was
> > trying to do something we cannot do.
> >
> > I agree that a more targeted error message would be beneficial;
> > patches for that are welcome as well.
>
> An error message was what I meant.
I've now added a more meaningful error message to sqlite-mode.el.
> >> Also, Emacs may also show the related bug number regarding such
> >> issues so that interested users can subscribe to know updates.
> >
> > We don't have any infrastructure in Emacs for doing stuff like that.
> > It would be a useful feature, I think (although not easy to
> > implement), but please submit a separate feature request for it.
>
> I was suggesting to show an error message like:
> "sqlite-xxx is not supported over tramp, see bug#xxx"
Sorry, no: I don't think it's right for us to have references to bug
reports in our sources, let alone in error messages. It's a long-term
maintenance problem, especially when we change the issue tracker.
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